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[Wisdom]

Kaif town

[Helz]

I gotta get to bed soon if I want to be up for eod. Anyone is welcome to ask me anything I can answer off the top of my head if they want a fast reaction from me, or just to understand what I am thinking

[Kaif]

Wisdom town

[Kaif]

but tbh I apologise for being lazy d2 since now I do not quite have any reads

[Helz]

What is your reasoning for your read?

(Talking to both of you on etchother)

[Kaif]

He said I am town so I reciprocated.

[Kaif]

honestly I am scared of wind’s big wall post that is incoming

[Helz]

Uhh. Wut now?

[Kaif]

its a joke I don’t have a particular read on night slot

[Helz]

Why did you town read them then…?

[Wisdom]

Just thinking they would know who I was if they were wolfing, considering it’s been 14 hours since I joined. It seems like I was one of wolves misyeet targets, so that kind of information would probably pop up quite fast in wolf chat.

[ErikaFurudo]

Wiisp is on silv, kaif, and pkr’s wagons. That’s every eod wagon aside from themselves, and two of them are confirmed. nagl and needs to be resolved.

[Wisdom]

I’m a she btw :3 Don’t know if that’s information I can provide with in an easier way than just telling you ^^

[Helz]

Forgive me but you are pinging the fuck out of me here…

[Kaif]

my bad

[Kaif]

vote me if u sr me

[Wisdom]

“Needs to be resolved” are four words I never enjoy hearing when playing mafia ngl

[WindwardAway]

@Zone_Q11

From town’s perspective, lying would hurt town more than it benefits them.

I’ve successfully lied as town before, and it was helpful.

@Guillotina

Also do notice that there were a good few minutes where everyone went mute, the entire chat froze, what could that mean?

Usually when that happens, it’s because too many people are typing in the thread at once and discourse just shits itself, but I can go back and check timestamps if you meant it was literally a couple minutes between posts. I’m pretty sure I manually refreshed the page to load the posts, though, which means it was a forum issue.

Also, yeah, I know she shouldn’t have jumped to claim as town, but I wouldn’t say it’s scummy.

@Guillotina

@Silviu200530

Is this what a town will do? Well, if you get accused let’s say on the actual game of ToL, you will quickly pull your will and send it. It can really just happen the same here, so we can’t be sure.

I didnt understand this

In the game Throne of Lies, everyone is a PR, and when accused of being scum, people copy their night logs and paste them immediately into the chat or else they get accused of lying about being town. It’s an impulse reaction but the community promotes massclaiming, at least currently. Idk about Nikamara, though, so I can’t speak for her. I think Silviu was just saying that a panic claim is not necessarily a scummy thing.

@Guillotina

Also this is not a bastard set up so we know there are no framers so the trade off from the redcheck if it was not retracted would have been good for town.

We know some roles give false information, such as millers or godfathers. A godfather would have the same reaction as a townie if someone claimed a redcheck on them because they wouldn’t expect it.

@Wisdom

Is there any reason not to clear Silviu and Windward based on post count alone?

I have no problem reaching top poster by powerwolfing, so I’d suggest you read some of my posts for their actual content and decide based on that. I get cleared too easily for post volume and also get tinfoiled for it, so it’s completely NAI.

@Wisdom

Lukundo said something extremely towny when I joined. Something about “you should know my town meta”. This approach, the mid game “please ****ing solve me” approach is very town-indicative in general in my experience.

Is it towny? I think if someone has played only one game with me before and I was town in that game, saying they know my town meta doesn’t do much in the current game. I’ve been in games with a lot of people where they were town,and did not necessarily catch them as wolves,even if I compared them to their town meta. So I don’t agree that mentioning town meta is a towny thing; it’s just NAI to me.

@Silviu200530

Keep in mind that somebody can’t lie when panicked or in a state that the mind is not exactly calm…

In Umineko 2 I came into the thread toward the end of the game as a wolf when the town was about to hammer a townie (think it was LyLo), they asked me to claim my role and abilities before they finalized the votes, and I fakeclaimed my abilities on the spot and slipped by and won the game. (As side information, I might have been a bit drunk when I did that,and yet I still managed to be convincing enough that they didn’t realize they falsely cleared me.) My point is that it isn’t so hard for scum to fakeclaim in a panic. In the same game, I successfully passed a redcheck RT that Marl tried on me by acting like there was no way he possibly could’ve gotten a redcheck on me (and the funny thing is that I was a framer).

@Silviu200530

Derps is busy for quite a while now… do we wait for him to be replaced?

Probably celebrating his high school graduation. I wouldn’t look too much into his activity levels.

@Tilgarial

@Tilgarial

Min - Town. I’ve only had two games with min; but I’m fairly sure I’ve got a good grasp of their personality, and they should be susceptible to my style of reading. I’d call it a gut read, but it’s more of a vague sense of how they post/structure their arguments/behave

Ah, it was in a wallpost/readlist
Nvm @min
But you did like it, heh

I think I asked you earlier about min, too, and you did give an answer, unless I’m mixing people up now… Which is entirely possible because there are so many players in this game that I remember the names and the most significant posts but not the less significant ones lol.

@Wisdom

I have bad reasons but I think Helz is wolfing.

bad reasons?

@Helz

I don’t want to drag this issue out. I do appreciate you guys taking time to offer solutions but something I dislike playing on this form is the lack of a simple post number that exists on pretty much every forum I have ever played on. It might just be a me thing but I feel less capable of conveying information and taking notes for the lack of this feature and do not feel what exists fulfills that gap. This again- a post game feedback thing though

If you hit the timestamp in the upper right corner of each post, it shows the post number there. Or if you scroll so that the post in question is at the top of your window,the post count display will show you the number. I know it’s annoying.

@Helz

You are by far the most town read player in this game in my notes. As I said to Silviu I do feel the town really needs some leadership and direction for the days end not to be a dumpster fire like d1. Who do you think should be on the chopping block or excluded as a potential?

Obviously don’t ever yeet Silviu.

I still think Guillo is most likely town, but if for whatever reason Wisdom proves to be town, I’d look more into their read on Guillo. I agree with min that it looks more like wisdom is 3p hunting than scumhunting, though, which is a cause for concern.

I see Helz is a highly contested spot still, but I don’t want him out today. I think he does provide some points that are fairly towny. It’s not out of the range of possibilities that he’s a wolf, but I don’t want to resolve his slot today because even if he’s a wolf, he’s been contributing to the thread more productively than some of the town tbh. He gets some discussion going even if it causes debates on his alignment.

I wouldn’t touch Prophylaxis for now; I’m fairly convinced he’s town and I am not going to tinfoil him because I don’t think I’d ever need to.

I would exclude Kaif and min from the chopping block for today, and reevaluate them tomorrow only if needed. I would rather someone other than Tilgarial, Blitz and Nikamara be chopped as well, but I would also definitely reevaluate those slots tomorrow.

I don’t think Aelin is a wolf here but I’m not sure about Wiisp. I’m also not sure about Lukundo. Fine with having Wiisp and Lukundo in the PoE for now but I don’t necessarily think they’re both scum, and I think Lukundo is less likely to be scum than Wiisp is, if only one of them is a wolf.

Merc feels like she’s twisting arguments a bit today, partly because I goofed and misinterpreted her post about checking online activity around the time of the mason claim, but partly because I still think it’s a little angleshooty, not very useful, and moreso that she was complaining nobody is considering the validity of her suggestion to look into people’s reactions to the mason claim. While I think that last part makes sense as a starting point to scumhunt, I still don’t like the way in which she told people to do it, and I also don’t like her complaint that people weren’t looking into it.

I don’t really have a solid read on Wisdom yet but I’d give them another day to blow me away with their posts, cause right now I’m not super impressed yet.

My gut still says Tilgarial is town but do what you will with it. They just don’t resemble their wolf game in my opinion, and I can’t really give better reasons for this read.

I think Zone is town and I wouldn’t vote him out.

I still townlean Blitz because a couple of his posts came across as being authentic thoughts, although the last-minute PKR vote is kind of worrying. But I asked him for his reasoning and he gave it, so it’s not quite as bad as I thought it would look.

Idk what to do with Erika’s slot. Gut also says town but do I have too many townleans now?

Im coming around a bit on the Lemonfairy read, but I want to read her posts more before making a final decision on her alignment. Her posts looked better today than they did yesterday, but in the back of my mind I’m still wondering if she could be wolfing.

[Wisdom]

I think Delz and Guill are both mafia and that Delz dislikes townies finding each other for bad reasons.

[Wisdom]

The wall has arrived!