Yeah I know how to do both of those things, it’s just that it’s inconvenient to quote like this when I’m writing a post in one window and then scrolling/reading the thread in the other. You get the reply box on the window you’re using to scroll the thread and eeesh
@min
Ok to be fair, the last time I played with you I was a wolf, and you had a good claim that made you untouchable, so maybe without the TMI I’m just noticing your posts more, but thinking back to that game, you weren’t super consistent in terms of thoughts after day 1, but still kinda came back in spurts, so you are probably just fine here
most recent votecount is 11h ago
ok
this is fine
A funny cat video
Early Blitz ISO is mostly negligible, emotion doesn’t really feel fake but they don’t take it anywhere.
First vote, 665. Reasoning feels more like poking for a reason than an actual reason for a vote, which, in the specific context of Zone wanting him to give a vote, is towny IMO because it doesn’t feel like agenda.
Gave own thought which is
actually not terrible? Provides a decent reason for the action, and while this has potential W/W equity I’m pretty sure Guillo is V so the shielding doesn’t seem to make sense unless he was specifically a scum who thought Guillo was weak and was white knighting
This feels kinda awkward
This looks good, especially with PKR’s green flip, because this is a pretty good thing to see and I’m not really sure why he would go for this/bring it up if it was W/V
actually feels like blitz is trying to interact with me and figure out where I’m at
mhm
Would like to see a follow-up on this
Trying to read Zone is like thinking you can read Old English just because you can read English
Good EoD interactions
this feels like
so random that i dont think a wolf would fake it?
like
most wolves would go “oh theyre claiming masons and they are/aren’t in wolf chat with us therefore they’re wolves/town”
Lines up logically speaking
then he has a big ol readpost which im not going to go through but it gives a lot of reads, most of which being town, which i feel heavily reduces their agenda pool if they’re scum and it’s pretty good reasoning regardless
says this but he’s not with me on the wiisp wagon
WIISP AND I ARE THUNDERDOMED
I AM SAYING HE IS LYING ABOUT HIS FLAVOR
why is nobody doing anything about this
argues against a non-W/W read, although this is mostly meaningless due to Tilga’s flip
would like to see more on this please
i might just have low standards for townplay but this gets a 
from me
in my experience
scum… usually don’t go “okay yeah kill me i was going to fakeclaim but im literally fine as a lynch with minimal drawbacks”
I think this is… pretty likely imo? This is the kinda angleshooty bit I was talking about earlier
but while I was in thread someone (Silviu?) made a readslist that had “The third mason” in it but not kaif, which he then quickedited
so its possible that someone or multiple someones around that time are on the scumteam
i was also personally thinking that kaif was the third mason but potato potato
This overall feels just like
pushing blame away and going “everyone is townie lol” which i dont like
TL:DR - Blitz overall is a townlean, which lines up with my gutread from earlier
He seems slightly demotivated and busy today, yeah, but that’s reasonable after four town flips
i know im fucking demoivated
there is a bit of sketchiness in some of his posts and a decent bit of questionable shit in his posts today which is why its not a townread
but overall… people should not be on blitz
or just ignore me, i guess…
Another cat video
Chloe subbed in today
should be relatively few posts, right?
sees 223 posts
cries
looks like theyre looking for whats going on
theyve had a decent focus on the poe of the days
this post is kinda yucky
somewhat because it feels belitting
somewhat because it cant be proved
. . .
lines up with earlier question about kaif
although in the context of “conversation about who is sus because of the kaif kill” this has shield-potential, especially since Chloe doesn’t add much of their own
Where is this read at now?
yolo is about where im at
although i should probably reread their ass
Why aren’t you just asking
y’know
the (person? people? i remember people saying someone claimed the third mason but i cant remember who it is for the life of me)
This sounds like a shitty post, but I actually like it because
with the knowledge of the meta on marl this actually does make sense
mood
This is a very good point
I would say Chloe/Wiisp not W/W from this but
she doesn’t go anywhere with it??
yay brain is trying to preflip in the absence of reliable tone
this sure is great cries
A lot of posts so not quoting but
the read on Helz feels like its real but I’d need to actually read Helz in order to give full thoughts on it
so, vaguely towny but I can’t really say how valid it is
please dont feed the paranoia
also, yes but NAI
This post in particular is bursting with awkwardness and self-awareness and I hate it
Do you still feel this way? Stronger or weaker if so?
This post as well also feels kinda weird, and… I’m not actually really sure why? There’s just something wrong with it
you say this
but iirc you have wiisp as like
towncore or townread or something
ill keep my eye out for further on this but, blatantly contradicting myself from earlier
this actually has a decent bit of partner equity if Wiisp flips W
Once again, this post feels awkward but there’s nothing in it on a micro level that feels awkward so im not really sure where this is coming from but that almost
makes it worse
subconsciously gets pocketed by sassy chloe
i should resist but i… dont want to
hnng
i want chloe to be town
who could have seen this coming
however, this is feeling a bit more like shade than just normal sass
the treatment of wiisp is
extremely inconsistent and giving me paranoia
… and this post makes me want to vomit
what the fuuuuuuck
she then has a… decent post about EoD2 which does fit in with whats going on around it
so i like that
not going to quote it individually but it has a few good points and questions and doesn’t do the thing of not making any reads/not talking about any of their reads and really just trying to manipulate it to their agenda
dont mind this im just saving it in case
big post on helz feels good except for
this little part
its relatively small but so is the amount of botulinum needed to kill someone but I really don’t like it just because
theres the irony of being subtly pockety and an air of superiority in a post talking about blatantly admitting to pocketing wind
brain being stupid
but the fact that chloe is actually looking at the spreadsheet of the person shes trying to solve and 1) sees that its wrong and 2) gives a reason for why it could be wrong
feels like she actually cares?
hnng
god this is a mood
thought process feels… reasonable? I dont really like or dislike it personally
but i also have absolutely no context on the merc wagon or mercs posts today
its derps
what did you expect
her overall interaction with derps feels like she’s genuinely annoyed at him and cant make heads or tails
and then she’s super rude regardless of being right or wrong and spoilering it doesnt change that in the slightest.
:ghosthug:
now theses feel like chloe
like, the first post is the most chloe post i have seen this game
thank you for not going “lol!mech is always true because people cant lie on the internet”, but… it feels like youve interacted incredibly differently towards this claim and wisp’s claim
theres a very reasonable explanation for this that i see but id like to hear your reasoning
then we go on to the whole “wind is scum for having a hater ability”
which i personally disagree with?
i’ve had the “hated” modifier as town before and i definitely wouldnt consider it a scum-centric ability?
i dont super know the context but scumreading her off that just doesnt make sense although in hindsight writing this seems kinda wasted since the votecount from… 12 hours ago now jesus fucking christ im trying too hard doesnt have anyone voting wind
that much ego would create a singularity that would destroy the entire forum
stupidstupidstupidstupidSTUPIDSTUPIDSTUPIDSTU-
case on Wisdom is
ok i guess
i dont really get anything from it and my brain is telling me that its scummy that its not scummy and that sure does Make Sense™
uh
so
i hate to say this chloe
but i think youre… kinda tunneled on guillo
and it all comes back to the discrepancy between the babysitter/pgo claims which just
i really want you to explain why youre treating them so differently to me
ayaya
i dont really know how i feel about this
like i said earlier
im pretty sure helz was killed for the morally questionable quickedit
did
did chloes name just change to “Chair_Of_Deception” or am i just really oblivious?
also i dont know why this was spoilered
this feels like a total restart of chloes brain for some reason
but there were only about six minutes between this and the last post
and it kinda feels like a slap in the face and im not really sure why
ok
and… your thoughts on them are?
this also doesn’t really
line up
aaaaaa
i think im starting to just go senile
this
wasnt what i was thinking
im also not sure how this relates to anything or changes things around
urge to close this fucking iso = rising
thinking
thinking intensifies
i dont really know what this is referencing
i read through the 44 posts recently and i might just be missing it because im stupid but like
???
so
thoughts here are: acknowledging this is a thought exercise, but how exactly do you stand on helz and guillo at the moment
they seem to have been your two greatest scumreads overall
Wisdom imo looked moderately towny when they subbed in but i remember when reading up they said something that made me stop and go “what the fuck?” and im upset now that i cant remember what it was
does this hold true regardless? is there any chance of T/T? how does this relate to you thinking that Wiisp/Guillo can’t both exist as town? do you see me/guillo as a potential team?
did something change between now and your read on min earlier where you said they kinda felt flat? im not really sure how i feel about this in general because
i dont really… see anything youve mentioned as particularly Town!AI for min although i should
probably give them a dedicated look sooner or later
or i could just… not
ive already gone over this
but with the added knowledge of this supposedly being an rt on my wavelength i vibe surprisingly little with it
it feels a bit like she went “lets push this” and there wasnt a crazy amount of support so she went “still scummy haha but not that scummy haha” although her dropping it and going for what she saw immediately is a good look
and i admit that it could also just be real or also her just soaking up paranoia but i just
do not know
OH
okay this actually makes that post i quoted earlier and couldnt figure out make sense
and i can… kinda see how she got there? like not super
but im not exactly good at picking up softs
mood 
but then this super big post on wind that
i honestly cant really care to think about
ive already given my thoughts on chloe/wind and i dont think ill really go anywhere further by digging deeper into the rabbit hole
ive been at “225 / 255” for like a hundred posts now
this iso doesnt end
and also no longer “Chair of Deception” or whatever and back to Chloe
am I dumb???
what the fuck is going on
not going into her big post
am running out of energy
i lied
so
theres this
and the idea of me not trying to get wiisp killed is
objectively incorrect?
i stopped yesterday because i thought sync rates meant something but everyone is saying sync rates dont really mean anything
theres also a relatively minor thing that i was thinking about that i dont really want to get into
but if i super duper have to i will talk about it
please go deeper into this
my eyes are getting blurry
their read on Wisdom feels very fleshed out and it logically tracks
to the point that i definitely agree
and then she goes “but lol idk”
and its just like
i do not understand
i… somewhat agree? the kill on kaif, regardless of whether it was because of suspected mason or not makes me kinda think that like
wolves might be in solid positions regardless to go for yolos on suspected masons
but then it doesnt match up with other stuff and i
just want to bash my head into my desk
cries
i dont understand where youre going with your min read
i genuinely do not understand any of it
where where where
bounce bounce bounce
“im not confident” “im confident” “im not confident”
OH THANK GOD ITS FINALLY DONE
OH MY GOD THANK GOD
TL:DR - Chloe is WTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTF I DONT KNOW WHATS GOING ON HERE
THERES SO MUCH I DO AND DONT VIBE WITH
AND THEN THERES SO MUCH I DO AND DONT AGREE WITH READWISE AND THOUGHT PROCESS WISE
AND THEN THERES THE DISCREPANCY BETWEEN GUILLO/WISP TREATMENT BUT THEN THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF WIND
AND I JUST WANT TO BASH MY HEAD INTO A TABLE
also, it feels relatively minor, but like… she said she would analyze some case and then never did and i dont know why this is sticking out to me and its not ai but just like
what the fuck is going on with this slot
CHLOE, HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU MORE FRUSTRATING THAN ERIKA
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Ugh i was just about to go to sleep
Do i needa get on pc and reply to everything ):
Also i blame arete for the name change
Stupid inside joke and i didnt realize they changed my forum name
Ftr aelin i feel like we do this dance in every single game and its starting to get so
So
Tiring
Idk why
And im sorry if this sounds rude or something. I dont mean for it to
I just am starting to notice a pattern ahahah
I guess i feel like every time you case or iso me its like you’re reaching for conclusions on some things regardless of your alignment. Like you’re trying to milk a read out of anything and everything possible
(I do it too, i did it with my blitz read when i said their comment about not being village kp was townie, when… it wasnt. I just wanted it to be)
Im projecting a lot tbh
Im an asshole
I think that post from you is townie though so congrats
yes
thats… kinda the problem? I feel like we both expect a lot out of the other and then like so little from ourselves
its nice feeling like im doing something, and i honestly dont know whether this is true or not but also i couldnt even come to a conclusion on your alignment
:ghosthug:
No! I… need the critique tbh. I didn’t realize just how much I relied on tone before this game and so like
these isos are probably really fucky-wucky overall because im trying not to use tone as much and its pretty much been proven i cant really read you consistently tone-wise
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i would say “but arent you one of the top wagons already” but haha we havent had a vote count in like 13 hours
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You probably don’t get CFD’d Chloe. imo you come into EoD as a wagon or don’t get CFD’d
So looking at this game, the big thing that stands out to me was min’s poor reaction to pressure early. This was something that I didn’t really see in either of the two games I looked at (I think even in their scum game they mentioned they were at L-3 or something and brushed it off?) and it’s a big part of what led me to scumread min early.
Looking at it, their progression feels more like their town game than their scum game? Mostly looking at how they approached Silviu here:
I didn’t really like how they approached Lemon but it’s still more progression then they had in their wolf game?
Gun to head min I’d say min is town based on my cursory review of their meta? I can track their Wisdom scumread pretty well and it doesn’t look like their scumreads are coming out of left field like the Golden Wind game. Not like, 100% certain, but feel fine about them right now?
Sleep time.
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It was mostly the fact that I was writing a post regarding the opening of the game, and I was commenting on things as they pinged me - and I had written a few things on Tilga feeling comfortable, then went ‘wait arent they dead’
I didnt read much more tilga stuff so idk
They coulda been supremely wolfy and i just didnt see it
I dont want to be townread for that post i just wanna bitch in the thread
i didnt add much because i had no context and all i knew regarding nightkill possibilities and who it was damning or a good look for was based off of what other people had told me - so any conclusions i’d make would be incredibly biased
i didnt have much to say on who is implicated by kaif’s death but i did feel it important to point out another potential possibility for why he might have died that i noticed was going ignored or unsaid
here:
that was just my way of inadvertently asking the thread in general
(also this is what i meant when i said sometimes it feels like you’re reaching for content whether you mean to or not. this is legit just a wording thing and is entirely NAI lol ily)
i didnt go anywhere with it because it didnt read as particularly AI to me - moreso just frustrating
omg im so villagery wtf why cant you see it
!!!
???
oh no this might sound wolfy
:^)
plopped in PoE for lack of reasons to townread
i feel like they havent contributed ~anything today, and all i like about them is their pure tone
im always a sucker for pure tone
and i definitely still want to give them a hug
why is that
3p read?
keep in mind that at this point in the game i very very very much disliked Guillo, whereas Wiisp i was ‘meh’ on
when i saw the PGO softs i got immediate red flags because the non-osie balancer in me says you dont put 2 villagers who are nigh-unkillable in the same game
this on top of my suspicion of guillo at the time made me more inclined to believe wisp’s claim during that second
i read through your post, and commented on the case you quoted for me, a few times
i just never wrote a long response to your post bc i didnt get pinged in either direction by it
i think you might be reading this wrong
or perhaps i wrote it with funky wording
its actually kinda the opposite of superiority - i was kinda shitting on myself there lol
like
‘if i found wind this early that means everyone did, right?’
i kinda assumed after some interaction that wind was widely townread, since she just
felt like a villager
its chloe
what did you expect
sorry aaaa
i’ve simply interacted with guillo more
and i very much disliked his slot already which pushed me to distrust his claim over wisp’s - whereas wisp just… existed. i knew about his babysitter claim but thats the extent of it. i dont think i had even talked with the dude at that point in the game, so he was at the very back of my mind
im no longer at that level of confidence on w!guillo anymore ftr, and im pretty torn on him overall
i’m not tunneled on guillo or i’d be pushing to have him as top wagon lmao
i’ve stepped back - and ive begun to turn around on him
hes in the ‘idfk’ section of my readslist right now as i keep bouncing back and forth on his alignment
also it doesnt all come back around to the babysitter/pgo thing
i dislike how he treated my slot, and how he has been treating wind’s - that takes the cake for why i scumread guillo earlier - not mech
im not saying those are the reality i was simply giving other possible explanations
it was a thought experiment
also idk what youre referencing with the quickedit thing lol (probably better that way)
i think this is about where i started questioning my sanity as i no longer knew what reads i believed in
lol
expressed later in my iso
here:
i didnt read anything in that portion of the thread other than the case you quoted for me (the tilga one), and the most recent VC - and i didnt know that nika was also scumreading wiisp or whatever
brain went ‘x person made case on y villager when z was top wagon. if x is a wolf, z has partner equity!’
it changes things because him breadcrumbing and softing his role isnt as wolfy with knowledge that he kills everyone who visits him, if hes a PGO, rather than just people who attack him
he wouldnt want villagers to visit him or they would die
earlier i thought his softs were wolfy as all he was doing was avoiding being nightkilled with them, which directly goes against the point of the role (but i was thinking of the wrong role)
i thought guillo was softing being mason
my read on helz and guillo is: i dont freakin know lol
my mind does somersaults when i try to solve guillo’s alignment
but helz im… ever so slightly leaning into townville tbh
no it doesnt hold true regardless, as i said ‘potentially’
at this point i thought guillo was the 3rd mason
which means his PGO claim would be false
which means Wiisp could very well be telling the truth about his claim
so my ‘likely 1 wolf in wiisp/guillo’ dichotomy no longer existed
i dont not see you and guillo as a potential team
but when i wrote that i thought guillo was just mason
yes i realized im giving them too many townpoints for things that are easily in their scumrange
but i still have them in my yolotowns
i mean i absolutely overplayed my scumread on you for reactions and i intended on dropping it once i woke up - so that i could talk about what i saw
and
i somewhat unintentionally breadcrumbed the ‘RT’ with the fact that i didnt stick around to talk to wisdom about any reads, and merely dropped a ‘i think aelin is a wolf. read my latest posts’ to see what they would do with that
i dont feel the fire
you’re talking the talk but you aren’t walking the walk
wisp too lol
it feels like you guys want eachother dead af but i just dont
feel it
ya feel?
merc kinda villabroey
merc feels like LHF
brain say merc designated ML because of vibes
therefore merc likely designated ML
(i can go into more detail when actually awake)
i didnt randomly go ‘lol idk’
i noticed the opportunism when i pushed on you and they piggybacked
which made me go ‘??? whats goin on here’
so i did a double take
realized wisdom isnt being very villagery
yet theres still some part of me that feels like she could be a low-efforting villager
i think theyre a villager
im not confident in it
there
i did this a few times
said i would iso someone, or that i’d ping someone when i was finished with reading something
then i never finished because i’d start doing classwork and forget, or get tired, or play the binding of isaac or something
or get lazy
lol
post from aelin is villagery
ticked a bunch of boxes
about what i expect from her towngame too - in response to how i’ve been treating her slot
im tired bye gamers