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[Mercenary]

Yeah they could just do that to kill them at night

[Mercenary]

Some wolves actually commonly TMI PR claims from town since they know that they aren’t wolves fakeclaiming.

[WindwardAway]

Current reads (I’m not drunk this time):

Not voting today:
Zone
Aelin
Wisdom
Derps
Lemonfairy
Prophylaxis
TheLukundo
Nikamara
Chloe
Min
Mercenary

Unsure:
Blitz
Whysper

Wolf:
Helz

Note that this is just today’s readlist. Slots will move in and out of my PoE if I’m alive tomorrow based on which ones I want to resolve as priorities.

[Zone_Q11]

@WindwardAway

Wiisp hardly interacted with me, and it became clear later that he wasn’t really reading the thread, so I don’t know where he was getting that (faked) read from. I’ll leave it to you guys to figure out what to do with it, though.

I can do nothing with this info.

@WindwardAway

Considering Guillo tried to thunderdome me in whatever way he intended to yesterday, I am completely fine with you guys solving between Whysper and me and figuring out whether you think one of us is a wolf before EoD5. I think we should be resolving it. I just want an extra day to determine if I was unfairly tunnelling Guillo or not before cementing my read on Whysper. I’ve heard fairly mixed opinions on this and there’s certainly no universal townread on her slot, so I suspect it’s a hit.

Welp, and there ya have it @Whysper!
You will be TD’ed with Windward on D5, so prepare your arguments, shades, and lies, because no matter what happens one of you will die!

@WindwardAway

you can kill me for voting Tilgarial but even you thought Tilgarial would flip scum. The only difference is that I thought Tilgarial was town until they voted me and stated paranoia as their reason, which looked to me like they had decided to shade my slot all of a sudden. I read them off the opportunistic jump onto my wagon that was started by the two masons that I encouraged specifically to see if I could bait a wolf, and unfortunately all I did was bait Tilga.

*squints eyes*
Either this is an elaborate excuse, or you are legit town. …fine, you are excused Today as well. Just stop talking about it unless you want to keep repeating your words. (Because I most certainly won’t remember them.)

[WindwardAway]

@Mercenary

Yeah they could just do that to kill them at night

Well, if Helz thinks he’s so towny, why isn’t he dead?
Same goes for Guillo’s slot. Both of them read as LAMIST but I’m hella confbiased so I should just stop pointing things out and influencing the rest of you with my reads.

[WindwardAway]

@Zone_Q11

Welp, and there ya have it @Whysper!
You will be TD’ed with Windward on D5, so prepare your arguments, shades, and lies, because no matter what happens one of you will die!

Well, if Whysper manages to successfully towncase herself, I won’t vote her.
It’s just that Guillo failed to towncase himself from my perspective.

[WindwardAway]

@Zone_Q11

*squints eyes*
Either this is an elaborate excuse, or you are legit town. …fine, you are excused Today as well. Just stop talking about it unless you want to keep repeating your words. (Because I most certainly won’t remember them.)

I repeat myself because I know nobody’s gonna go through my ISO, including myself lol.
I’d much rather repaste my notes and have an exact copy of what I already said before than have to dig for my own words in the thread tbh, and I wouldn’t blame anyone for thinking the same.

[Zone_Q11]

@Lemonfairy

You can find the context by clicking on the little arrow thing on the top right corner of the quote.

Yes, but I am too lazy to do that.

@Lemonfairy

It’s like a weak town read with no reasoning to support it. People are obviously going to question it.

Does anyone need any reason to townread me other than “meta” and “guts”?

@Lemonfairy

The fact that they’re mentioned at all and in a context of being wolfy makes it seems like not distancing to me.

Once again: I don’t see how that cannot be distancing.

@Lemonfairy

@Zone_Q11

@Lemonfairy

@Wisp

I didn’t say anything, I just know your wolf game falls short as the days go on, and you have been underwhelming

min probably town here.

…how exactly is min town here?

Wiisp is shading them by calling them a wolf and saying they are underwhelming.

I only see Wiisp mocking / scumreading min.
I don’t see why min has to be town because of that.

[WindwardAway]

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@Lemonfairy

@Zone_Q11

@Lemonfairy

@Wisp

I didn’t say anything, I just know your wolf game falls short as the days go on, and you have been underwhelming
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min probably town here.

…how exactly is min town here?

Wiisp is shading them by calling them a wolf and saying they are underwhelming.

I only see Wiisp mocking / scumreading min.
I don’t see why min has to be town because of that.

the funny thing is that Wiisp said he didn’t have any background on reading min’s alignment, but the three of us were in a game together where Wiisp and I were town and min was wolf. So Wiisp suddenly decided to remember this in an effort to shade min. I think Lemon is right.

[WindwardAway]

damn quotes

[Zone_Q11]

Windward, no offense but that’s a stupid question. Why would scum kill VI LAMISTs?

[Zone_Q11]

Welp, okay. That works.

[WindwardAway]

@Zone_Q11

Windward, no offense but that’s a stupid question. Why would scum kill VI LAMISTs?

Helz has given no explanation for why he’s not dead.
I gave my explanation already and said it’s because I suspected my read list was totally wrong and I was being used to push agenda.
All Helz has said is that he will not get ML’d which is not a defense relating to the night kills whatsoever.

[WindwardAway]

I’m saying, if he thinks he’s un-mislynchable as town, why is he not doing anything to obvtown himself here?

[Chloe]

@WindwardAway

but that’s my point, I think it would indicate that if Helz is town, Guillo doesn’t have TMI. If you were a wolf and you knew a slot that claims town cop to be town, would you express a strong TR on them? I think wolves have been PR hunting, judging by that Kaif kill, so I don’t think they’d make a move to potentially clear a town PR. I hardclaimed vanilla so I’m a safe whiteknight target for them, but someone who has been very active and yet hasn’t claimed their role is a grey area that could be a potential ML for them.

This is a quite a bit backwards imo
Wolves have absolutely been PR hunting, as is evident by their failed attempt to kill the 3rd mason
But wolves are also much more likely to shield town PRs, knowing that it’ll be hard to get them eliminated
And they will push for VTs to die as they dont have mech to bring up as a defense

Wisp literally made a move to clear a town PR
He thought Kaif was the 3rd Mason and hardshielded the dude with very little reason on d2

You hardclaimed vanilla so you’re the opposite of a safe whiteknight target, and instead are someone they would actively keep on the table for MLs
Anyone in the grey area is a potential PR, and unless wolves see something that spews them as VT they will be more careful with those slots

I feel like you have this kinda backwards
or perhaps im reading something wrong

[Chloe]

i’m not saying this is indicative of anything for guillo/helz but i do think your thought process is backwards

[Zone_Q11]

*squints eyes*
Can anyone other than min vouch for that?

[WindwardAway]

@Chloe

This is a quite a bit backwards imo
Wolves have absolutely been PR hunting, as is evident by their failed attempt to kill the 3rd mason
But wolves are also much more likely to shield town PRs, knowing that it’ll be hard to get them eliminated
And they will push for VTs to die as they dont have mech to bring up as a defense

ok, so what’s your thought on Guillotina pushing to yeet a PR then? He was right that one of the claimed PRs was a fake (Wiisp), but do you think the wolves are sitting by and letting town push the PRs instead? That would lock me as a wolf because I said I didn’t want to resolve PR claims by yeeting them for the sake of yeeting them and hoping it hits the fake among them, and yet voted Wiisp anyway. I was looking at plenty of other things on Wiisp but didn’t really have enough information to fairly vote out Wiisp yesterday, even though my vote was there. I was piggybacking Aelin’s case on him in the end because I thought I was being unfair in reading him and I trusted Aelin over Wiisp.

[Chloe]

i cant vouch for it bc i dont think i was in the game, but i did notice when i was reading wisp’s iso that he said soemthing about not knowing how to read min, on d1

then yesterDay he said min drops off the later the game goes on as a wolf

mindset disconnect that felt opportunistic

[WindwardAway]

@Chloe

Wisp literally made a move to clear a town PR
He thought Kaif was the 3rd Mason and hardshielded the dude with very little reason on d2

What if I said I suspect it’s because Helz had information on Kaif and is teammates with Wiisp?

@Chloe

You hardclaimed vanilla so you’re the opposite of a safe whiteknight target, and instead are someone they would actively keep on the table for MLs

But that’s why it’s a valid wolf move to WK me. It makes the person WKing me look less suspicious. Sure I’m self-centered but that’s a play I’d definitely consider as a decent wolf move. Shield a town vanilla who’s gaining suspicion on them and then go “see, I was right” when they flip town.

@Chloe

I feel like you have this kinda backwards
or perhaps im reading something wrong

it shouldn’t be surprising to you that I have very backwards reasoning sometimes lol. It makes sense to me and I can’t really expect it to make sense to others.