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Hi people!
Let’s yeet Whys and Zone!

Anyone who still doubts me should read my ISO. Being right feels good!

Yeah I’m reading through Helz’s ISO right now

Only through 100 posts but feels like he spewed Wisdom, Merc, and potentially Lemon clear

He did the full case on Nightingale (Wisdom slot) and had that weird spat with Merc about her Erika read. I’m not sure if Helz ever draws negative attention to his active scum buddy wrt Lemon like this:

Yeah lmao, pretty sure Wisdom is town

If anyone else wants to take a look at the ISO feel free, but the first 100 posts kinda just solidifies my weak townreads as townreads, and makes me want Whysper mega-dead (sorry :expressionless: )

I’ll finish it up probably during my lunch break

His ISO is pretty easy to read through because he used the reply function a lot, so I’d recommend checking it out if possible.

Only thing that worries me is… I don’t really have a sense of how he generally treats his buddies because I’ve never played with him before and Wisp was mostly AWOL this game, but unless he’s a super strange scum player, I’m decently confident in the people he spewed clear.

Sleep time.

:wave:

I lied i’m addicted to fm
Gunna mobilepost for a bit

I think Wisdom coming into the thread and immediately going against Helz’s attempts to push and discredit Luk by hard townreading him is a good look

She came in guns blazing against guillo (who i heavily believe to be wolfing), but even if we ignore that preflip association, she sheeped my predecessor on Wisp for the hell of it, and called out Helz as a wolf too

Like
If shes a wolf shes doing the exact opposite of what Helz was trying to do, and undermining his attempts to deepwolf and push for misyeets

Along with that, Helz brought attention to her at multiple points - and I distinctly remember statements like ‘wisdom is in consensus PoE but nobody is pushing her. whats up with that’ and i dont get any distancey vibes from there interactions - and it moreso felt like Helz was going for the easy LHF who had no true defenders

So
Yeah

Thems be ma thoughts
And its why wisdom is in my towncore
So congrats wisdom

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Is this where i mention that i read through his articles/discussion threads overnight to get a sense for how he plays wolf? :^)

Lemme find the link

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/48482-Totally-not-a-setup-but-I-need-a-place-to-scribble-

I did some analysis of it in my sync chat but im too tired to paraphrase everything currently

But the dude knows what hes talkin’ about

I rescinded the townpoints I gave to Lemon for her ‘derpclear’ because of this article - same with Nika for her 5000 derpclears

I’m extremely certain that windward is a villager, because all of his interactions with her indicate that he was attempting to manipulate her to control the thread and push agenda (he did this with silviu as well)

Something else that i found to be notable was the ‘divide and conquer’ portion of this

I also heavily doubt that all wolves were on Wisp at EoD3, as theres more value in splitting positions

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Reading that also got me thinking about some things. I think it’s important to look both at who he was trying to manipulate (wind and silviu) and also how he was trying to manipulate them

I could very well be conf-biased to all hell right now but I think the angle he took with wind is actually a big point against guillo/whysper

Wind came into d3 guns blazing, barrel pointing right at guillo and helz
She called both of them for using her to push agenda, and started upping the pressure

In response to this, Helz attempted to help Wind ‘find’ him as town, and used her paranoia against her in an attempt to get her to suspect me for pocketing her - as i was egging her on to continue her tunnel

Why didn’t he go the easy route? Why didnt he just say ‘im not manipulating you, but guillo definitely is’
Why not take advantage of her paranoia and self-revolved reads to push Guillo out - as she already had the crosshair on him? Why not shift the blame? It’s exactly what you’ve been using Wind for - to push your MLs for you - so why not help her push someone who shes already tunneled in on?

Instead he focused on discrediting those of us who agreed with wind; me and wisdom
To make it less likely she would trust us

Sometimes it just is that simple - and the answer is staring us in the face
Sometimes the puzzle pieces just come together, and this feels like one of those times

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I’m never speaking again

I used the wrong fucking form of their

How the hell

I
How
What
Aaa

Good night

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Thank you for the core m’am!

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What do you think of their vote D1 on Silv?

I haven’t actually looked back on it which might be useful but instantly it felt like a bussing vote (Yeah, yeah, I know Silv was Town). I’m going off the idea that if it felt instantly like Lemon was trying to buss Silv, then although that idea is just wrong, it still means that I hated the vote

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Need confirmation on Blitz tbh. I get Wisdom but personally they’re still in the PoE (all be it, last to lynch in my PoE)

o yeah also PoE.

Lemon>Nika>Blitz>min>Whys>Wisdom

Actually, after typing this out loud,

Whys>Zone>Wisdom feels so much better

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Get Wisdom out of POE.
She’s unfortunately also cleared IMO.
(I never said that I ever evaluated Wisdom as scum Today.)

For the record, I am clearing Wisdom for the wrong reasons because it involves pre-flipping.

Wisdom, I know you’re probably town, but let me ask you something; Who do you want dead at D7 after you lynch Whysp D5 and lynch me D6?
Assuming I flip town, who would look suspicious afterwards?

Also, if Wisdom is scum, then she auto-wins not because she plays well, but because she deceives well. I haven’t ever seen a fake VI, and I can only hope that I won’t have to this time.

VI? What does that mean?