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[Lemonfairy]

no worries

[Chloe]

@Zone_Q11

I want a short recap on Proph, but everyone else seems fine.

I’m writing this with half my normal brainpower so I apologize for the lack of coherency lmao

Anyways - Proph is one of my strongest townreads, and I’m just about willing to stake the game on him being a villager

TLDR is:

His thought process has been incredibly transparent, and he has been pushing town in the correct direction since the very start. He has a lot of thread control and credibility, and rather than using that status to discredit others or push agenda, he’s been actively attempting to gauge alignments, form a core, and talk to others to solidify his reads - all while taking other opinions into account.
What I’m trying to say is theres no indication that anything he has done thusfar has been in bad faith.

He contributed to, and deserves some amount of credit for, the Wisp pelt - as he brought attention to the fact that Wisp was going UTR and not interacting as much as he might expect.
Their interactions don’t feel partnered at all, either. Rather than actually interacting with Proph after being prodded to multiple times by Proph himself, Wisp brushed off the attempts to engage and stated that he was disconnected from the thread, etc. Proph calling Wisp out and Wisp doing nothing about it didn’t put Wisp in a better position in the slightest. If the two were w/w there, I expect that Wisp would have capitalized on the fact that his partner was reaching out a helping hand. He would have taken advantage of this and actually furthered his position in thread instead of doing… nothing.

Along with this, during a majority of the game, and especially d1, Wisp was being incredibly pocketey and buddybuddy towards Proph. His posts to and about the guy are distinctly nonpartnered, and it looks much more like an attempt to get on his good side (stating that everyone should sheep v!Proph, etc), which Proph responded to by stating that Wisp was acting weird and/or wolfy.

The long and short of it is that he looks and smells like a villager, and his interactions with flipped wolf Wisp are unpartnered.
It’s just that easy tbh.

[Chloe]

@TheLukundo

Need confirmation on Blitz tbh. I get Wisdom but personally they’re still in the PoE (all be it, last to lynch in my PoE)

I’m actually a little iffy on Blitz tbh. I think he’s more likely town than not simply because of the jump onto the attempted Wisp CFD at EoD1 (and also because I’ve been sheeping other people’s reads there) but I do have some pause when it comes to him

The fact that Helz narrowed in on exactly you to discredit and push as an elim, after the attempted Wisp CFD was kinda meh. Why not Blitz, who has a much quieter voice and would be a much easier ML?
There’s also the fact that there were no flipped wolves on his wagon at the false EoD2, and wagons shifted to a flipped villager, and someone who I believe to be a villager.

He’s kinda a blind spot for me, and I’ve admittedly been sponging my other townreads’ reads on him - as well as accepting the fact that his vote on Wisp at EoD1 was a good look - but I… do think he has wolf equity just from a quick memory skim
Weh? Weh

needa figure him out

[Chloe]

Hes been incredibly tonally pure though
lol

[WindwardAway]

hi

went through Whysper’s ISO, I don’t see any posts I would specifically point out that I think only come from town!Whysper, and I see a couple posts that I think very likely come from wolf!Whysper.

I actually do think Nikamara’s case on Whysper looked genuine, and it feels as genuine to me as I thought Nika’s case on Silviu was (and he was a mason, so the case was wrong, but I saw a couple things in both of those cases she gave that I don’t think wolves would be so fast to point out). At the very least I don’t want Nikamara’s slot (now smallworldz?) to get yeeted today, and probably just never.

in short, I’m still fine with yeeting Whysper, and if the slot flips wolf, it’s more worth digging through Guillotina’s ISO for spew than Whysper’s, with the exception of Whysper’s readlist. If the slot flips town, it’s still worth looking into both, but for reads and not spew in that case. Idk why I’m saying this since that’s obviously how people play FM.

Also, either way Whysper flips, it’s worth considering her interactions with Zone and Nikamara as I think they hold the most weight right now from what I can see. It’s also worth considering she had Lemonfairy as her top scumread, and voted Lemonfairy, but I saw basically no interaction between them, which looks like distancing imo.

Current preferred yeet order:

Whysper > Lemonfairy > Zone > Blitz > Nikamara/min only if the game hasn’t ended by then.

[WindwardAway]

@Chloe

Hes been incredibly tonally pure though

this, and his “I should’ve claimed KP but oh well, too late” are probably the two strongest reasons I’ve had to townlean him for however many days. He’s also been a consistent wagon choice for a few days, and while I think both Blitz and Lemon have been pretty quiet and I don’t have much on either of them, Lemon has basically never come close to becoming a top wagon, as I mentioned before. There would’ve been no resistance to the Blitz wagon on D2 had it not been for the false EoD, and quite frankly, I don’t even know if wolves wanted a CFD or they just thought it would be nice to let the town throw itself into chaos.

[WindwardAway]

@smallworldz

One thing id like to ask while reading up is: Is it normal in this forum to just talk without actually saying anything important to the convo this much(filler)?

unfortunately yes, because of its chat-like features and also because most of us like hearing ourselves talk lol.

welcome to the forum and welcome to the game!

[Chloe]

@TheLukundo

I’ll just blame Chloe if Wisdom is mafia

this is the way

[Blitz]

@Zone_Q11

Give explanation on min and Wisdom.

• Min seems to be pretty genuine especially during the day 1 and 2 where they were being targeted. Their posts also give more a townie vibe. They chime in with useful comments quite frequently and in general I haven’t seen any scum indicative actions from them

• For wisdom. I had Nightingale under as a scumlean which transffered over to them. Plus when I swept through their posts nothing particularly stood out as townie except for a few left field ones. Also poe of who’s leftover. Although there comments on the previous day and their lack of direction early on do give them towncred so I’d rather not see them lynched today.

As for the rest give me a few minutes to catch up

[Mercenary]

I do know my wagon was town-motivated

[Blitz]

@Lemonfairy

This looks really fake to me. Blitz is obviously saying they SR Wiisp and has been saying it for a while but then they go and vote Wisdom… and it’s because they didn’t want a majority lynch.

I’m just gonna reply that they were just 2 votes away from getting lynched and there was still a while before the day’s end so I was being cautious.

@Lemonfairy

Again, Blitz SRs me the most but they vote Wisdom again because I was already being pressured? I don’t see how the two relate to each other >.>

how so? You were under pressure at that time so I didn’t just want to add another vote on you. Plus I was going to sleep and wanted to vote before that If I remember correctly. However, you are right about me not giving my reasonings <.<

[WindwardAway]

I actually think both your and Tilga’s wagons were town-motivated, and both of them were largely my fault.

[Blitz]

@Zone_Q11

By the way, why didn’t Nika just Backup as Mason?

I can’t remember the exact post but I sorta remember her saying that she wasn’t able to obtain it. You can ask milk about that again

[Zone_Q11]

@Chloe

I’m writing this with half my normal brainpower so I apologize for the lack of coherency lmao

Your half brainpower is filled with 3 paragraphs of text? I don’t even want to see your normal brainpower…

My reaction

@Chloe

His thought process has been incredibly transparent, and he has been pushing town in the correct direction since the very start. He has a lot of thread control and credibility, and rather than using that status to discredit others or push agenda, he’s been actively attempting to gauge alignments, form a core, and talk to others to solidify his reads - all while taking other opinions into account.
What I’m trying to say is theres no indication that anything he has done thusfar has been in bad faith.

You are saying nice words, but I am not exactly someone who remembers things well, and a couple (i.e. 2~4) quotes would’ve helped give me examples of said nice things about Proph.

@Chloe

He contributed to, and deserves some amount of credit for, the Wisp pelt - as he brought attention to the fact that Wisp was going UTR and not interacting as much as he might expect.

I remember giving credit of Wiisp pelt to (among others) Proph, and I remember him giving it back to the others that are you/Luks/Wind.
–I guess that humility and honesty is towny. I don’t often see any scum nor town like that nowadays.

@Chloe

Their interactions don’t feel partnered at all, either. Rather than actually interacting with Proph after being prodded to multiple times by Proph himself, Wisp brushed off the attempts to engage and stated that he was disconnected from the thread, etc. Proph calling Wisp out and Wisp doing nothing about it didn’t put Wisp in a better position in the slightest. If the two were w/w there, I expect that Wisp would have capitalized on the fact that his partner was reaching out a helping hand. He would have taken advantage of this and actually furthered his position in thread instead of doing… nothing.

I don’t understand whatever was said after “If the two were w/w […]”, and I don’t have any memory of the stuff before that, so I guess I’ll have to take your word for it.

@Chloe

Along with this, during a majority of the game, and especially d1, Wisp was being incredibly pocketey and buddybuddy towards Proph. His posts to and about the guy are distinctly nonpartnered, and it looks much more like an attempt to get on his good side (stating that everyone should sheep v!Proph, etc), which Proph responded to by stating that Wisp was acting weird and/or wolfy.

This one I actually vaguely remember by means of second-hand reads. I suppose it would make more sense if Wiisp was attempting to pocket Proph, but I am just skeptical about it.

@Chloe

The long and short of it is that he looks and smells like a villager, and his interactions with flipped wolf Wisp are unpartnered.
It’s just that easy tbh.

Hm… Well, alright. I guess he’s okay in towncore.
That’s one thing less to think about.

[Zone_Q11]

@WindwardAway

Current preferred yeet order:

Whysper > Lemonfairy > Zone > Blitz > Nikamara/min only if the game hasn’t ended by then.

WOO! WE ARE READY!

[Mercenary]

My normal brainpower is me sticking my entire hand on a pot of glue

[Lemonfairy]

@Blitz

I’m just gonna reply that they were just 2 votes away from getting lynched and there was still a while before the day’s end so I was being cautious.

I’m still not totally convinced. It looked like you were reluctant to vote Wiisp to me.

@Blitz

how so? You were under pressure at that time so I didn’t just want to add another vote on you. Plus I was going to sleep and wanted to vote before that If I remember correctly. However, you are right about me not giving my reasonings <.<

So if someone you SR the most is under pressure, you don’t vote them?
Do you mind giving your reasoning with regards to your Wisdom scum read then?
Are they still a SR to you now?

[min]

Lmao

[min]

Arsonist? Why do we think that exists specifically

[Zone_Q11]

@Blitz

Min seems to be pretty genuine especially during the day 1 and 2 where they were being targeted.
Their posts also give more a townie vibe.
They chime in with useful comments quite frequently
and in general I haven’t seen any scum indicative actions from them

• Purity. “Targeted.”
• Vibe.
• Activity.
• No scum AI.

Not enough. Do it all over again.

@Blitz

For wisdom. I had Nightingale under as a scumlean which transffered over to them. Plus when I swept through their posts nothing particularly stood out as townie except for a few left field ones. Also poe of who’s leftover. Although there comments on the previous day and their lack of direction early on do give them towncred so I’d rather not see them lynched today.

• Transferred bias.
• No town AI.
• POE.
• (Filler)

Not enough. Nowhere near enough.

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Give more posts.
FLOOD ME WITH CONVICTION.