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I thought Osie said there was no jester, but if you mean some sort of a neut with an alt wincon then sure, I guess that’s still a possibility. I just don’t think Osie put a role in the game that will literally end the game if we vote the player out, based on what was said.

Also, if you think no scum would pull Guillo’s gambit, wouldn’t that also be way too obvious of a play for a jester to make anyway?

well nobody actually runs the, “Jester win, ends the game” wincons anymore
Any 3rd party outside town of Salem usually just wins, and then leaves the game

Doesn’t matter to me in regard to Guillotina’s lynch potential for D1. Although if I can trust you for that it points pretty hard to Guillotina being town.

Ah. Well, I’m just gonna take what Osie said at face value and assume there’s no jester.

helz focus on the jester does bother me a lot though

Because Helz is neut hunting instead of scumhunting?

I have a speculation on Helz but I’m not going to mention it just yet, since I think it’s -EV if they’re town.

I would have to look back but I felt like you responded pretty quickly to some situations as they unfolded. It made me feel like you were active but not participating.

I am curious as to your thoughts though. If you had to pick 3 players for ‘most likely scum’ who would they be off the top of your head?

well he is certainly hunting, regardless of alignment
I don’t think he is 3rd party hunting
but again, everything always comes back to SC2 forum mafia games, and they are completely different there, in how they are setup

its not uncommon for annoying 3rd party roles to exist, but most setups are usually open, or have flavor that corresponds with alignment

Ahh ok, I remember this happened in the NUF 2 game here and it was mainly because the NUF players were used to having 3p roles in their games as well (although I was right about one of the wolves speculating a bit too much on the neuts in that game).

If I was scum wouldn’t it make more sense for me to hide my belief that someone could be a jester and communicate it in a team chat?

min, mercenary, guillotina

mean that’s wine, its useless to me
just like @Helz

just as much as Til’s thoughts on Zone/Me

How cute!
Why do you suspect me? I’m generally townread.

Actually — why Min and Guillotina as well?

Kaif is being different, burn the witch

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Interesting because I townlean all 3 of those so far. Do you have anything off the top of your head that would convince me to change my mind?

On a real note, I am not going to interact with Min, they are town unless someone says otherwise, for reasons

no