Oh, okay. I thought you previously also said I was defending Helz, so also took this to mean the same thing. Unfortunately I think others also misunderstood what you were saying, but hopefully they’ve seen the clarifications.
Oh, no worries. 
I mean, I don’t blame people for suspecting this slot. And I haven’t done much to be able to turn things around. I’ve gotten spoiled by subbing into 2 really townie slots recently in other games and enjoying the town aura from them. Haha.
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Are you able to paraphrase this in a little more detail? Don’t want to dismiss your read on her but as Chloe said, that slot is just extremely likely to be scum and I trust what’s actually going on in-thread rather than a neighbor chat.
My high level reads I posted above.
Don’t thiiiink Wisdom/Helz are w/w, and I read through a couple of min’s town and scum games and I think that they’re town here?
Ofc meta is not an end-all be-all, but they have actual progression and thought when it comes to evaluating their wolfreads. In the Golden Wind game it felt like their pushes felt manufactured and pre-planned. In this game I can sorta see how they’re grappling with their reads especially wrt Lemonfairy/Wisdom?
Lemon is a big idk, and I don’t think Blitz joins the CFD on Wisp at EoD1.
Again, pretty much just tone from skimming through the thread to catch up.
I really didn’t look closely at the content. And I didn’t really have enough knowledge of the game yet to really understand any context anyway. Again, really just tone. I’ve seen Wiisp as town and just felt their solving was similar. And the posts I saw from Aelin just seemed fakish. I may have missed posts where there was good content and didn’t look closely at them.
I barely had reads on most people, and a lot just based on tone at that point. So trying to then speculate on wolves on the wagon was just beyond where I was at then.
Again, I was hardly caught up with the game. Expecting me to somehow turn things around on the wagons that were pretty much ready to go and towards the EoD seems much. Also, it was a slight speculation with no case to really build on.
I really think you are grasping at trying to make me look scummy in areas that there’s little cause. There’s enough already from other things people have pointed out from this slot. No need to stretch these things. Unless the point is to just find some “independent thought” for your own read on me so that you can pull yourself out of the PoE?
You were really comfortable with them in the neighbor chat Yesterday, right?
Walk me through when you felt good about Wisdom Yesterday to now?
I’ll place my vote
\Vote Lemonfairy osieorb18 @EliThePsycho
Since I’m not sure how many votes are currently on Wysp and Lem is my other target currently
Anyhow goodnight
Windward actually dropped me from her towncore because off stuff where as Luks wants a consensus whether I am on POE or not.
I won’t bother trying to influence your reads, and I don’t mind dying at D6 either. All I am asking is to not blame Windward, and a re-eval on min & Lemonfairy.
I outright don’t trust min no matter what, and Lemlem… It’s weird. She’s done actively nothing towny, but Whysper’s and Helz’ votes would imply that she is town.
Give explanation on min and Wisdom.
Great minds think alike… but fools rarely differ.
How… disappointing. Given the doubt that everyone has been given, I’d thought for sure that you would be able to start a wagon on me with no problem whatsoever.
Ah, but it would’ve spewed me town, so as to keep me in POE, you wouldn’t make any big moves on me. I see, I see…
Yes, well… It wouldn’t be their first time.
I doubt it will matter. Your case is one where the end justifies the means. This “reasoning” is not enough to cover up everything else that has happened in the past.
@Nikamara Windward was correct re: my stance on you using your backup role if Helz flipped town.
FTR, I did not find Helz. He was actually kinda snowing me on Day 2; I thought he looked somewhat genuine when he was talking to Lukundo that Day, and even up until he claimed I still had doubts about him flipping scum (because I didn’t really see an agenda coming from him).
Credit imo goes to Wind/Chloe/Luk there; I only ever re-evaluated Helz on Day 3 when Wind talked about him and I determined that there had to be scum in my townreads.
Yes and no.
It would make sense if you read them individually, but if you think of what happened D4, then it wouldn’t make much sense for Whysper to park a vote at Lemonfairy.
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That… is not good at all.
Wisdom V
min V
Lemon Null
Blitz V
Meanwhile, scumleans are Lemon, Nika, and myself… I might not know how to handle Lemonfairy either, but Nika’s case on Whysper is such a good one, that I’d not believe it if you told me that it came from a W/W.
I haven’t been reading a lot of Nika’s posts super closely, admittedly (kind of have them sheltered off as the person who claimed Backup on D2) but this reads as ~genuine? I believe the intent here.
And yeah, doubt Luk is a wolf here after Helz repeatedly badgered the guy Days 1/2/3. I’m sure I’ll take a look at those posts later on when I do the interaction analysis.