This did get us valuable information, though. Bleh.
L1ght, do you now want to answer my questions?
This did get us valuable information, though. Bleh.
L1ght, do you now want to answer my questions?
I already am in a second tab
Notice me :^(
VCA, isoās, justā¦reading and interacting?
You make it sound like cuddling w!italy is a lose conditionā¦
No no, Iām not defending him, not at all, I just said I see his progress as Town while you see it as Scum.
I can see your reasoning, especially since youāre the one heās against so itās understandable, but what I am saying is you left out quotes that without could make a person look more scummy than they actually did, and thatās something Iām not a big fan off.
Centuries:Wazza time, I thought he was townlike but Iām looking for more than him getting angry at PoE
I wouldāve gotten angrier if this was old me, Iāve only swore once this game and thatās an accomplishment.
Centuries:I TR Ash, why do you think Ash scum?
Correction, as stated further down I stated āI never said I townread Ash, all I stated was that the reasoning he gave was townie and your read is completely diffferent to what I read from the same exact posts.ā
Not to mention, I was tunneling CRich in a way to not say āI want you deadā or āI scumread youā but instead in a way to get him to admit what he had done or at the very least realise what he had done when he talked about his scumread on Ash earlier, which he later noticed and talked about. Centuries:idk itās really easy to argue agaisnt that and the issue with Wazza ISO is that he just jumps down the rabbit hole and never quits it
I would like an explanation based on this.
Centuries:I donāt even care about the PoE/Lynchpool argument, agree to disagree
Then why constantly post your lynchpool idea?
Centuries:My issue is that he has really little content outside of this like half his posts are just around CRich and Lynchpool argument so Iād like to see more
The issue is, 2 hours after the game started, I went sleep and woke up at around 4am-ish my time so 7 hours later. Meaning my only content is from 7 hours into the game and later, in which I took an hour break and when I arrived, I began my argument on Richard.
Itās been a little more than 16 hours, and compared to some I have posted quite a bit of content that it makes this ISO on me look shabby, in my opinion.
Centuries:If you can successfully make me believe a very low poster is scum and it flips scum I will become your number one fan
Sure thing. Italyās meta is being inactive as scum, you can see from games like BotF 2 and BotF 4. Not to mention they usually meme a lot and always seem not interactive with the thread which is a clear giveaway this game.
Centuries:Not a scum with no interactions though! You can just look at VCA and you still could get something but usually scum wont just pile onto a cw / outside of the wagon
Of course, but all scum are bound to interact, even if they donāt interact back. Just look at some games where I was just vibing as scum and my fellow scum whacked the wagon away from me D1, we still won but you know.
Centuries:You being in the lynch candidate list doesnāt mean I want you dead, it just means I personally donāt have an extreme opposition to lynching you (at the time of posting this)
Below the post you stated āRemoved players who are low-no content posters or have not done many scummy things.ā I would like to know the scummy things I did, to be honest.
my girl/man ash 500 posts behind
Did you post this because you feel pressured to look active?
/vote Centuries
This is fake as fuck.
No, I posted it because Appel asked me which of Wazza posts I liked
This is fake as fuck.
yes it was
No I mean, the reactions, this entire build up seems like you two put this together.
And you did it like a good little townie, huh?
you two put this together.
meh
im still pushing him
/vote L1ght
[quote=āclonedcheese, post:981, topic:82422, full:trueā]
Alright
So
Ima try and actually read through ISO
Early game:
Remember everyone, a town that works together is a town that wins.
Opener: NAI. Shows initiative for thread control - indicative of CRich being themselves
These are the posts which make me think Centuries in his town meta this game.
Iām town leaning Centuries.
Classifying people early on - also seems natural
I would like a little more on this take however
Though I can tell you that his posts are town motivated as Iāve seen similar posts from his slot before when he plays as town.
Although tgis is flawed, strongly taking a stance feels natural
I have a feeling Intensify isnāt group scum here.
Why is he asking questions in the main thread which could be answered by his group scum if he were group scum?
Fyi bad argument because nost groupscum are too lazy to go ask that in their chat unless itās really telling
Gives you a tiny bit of towncred too
At least i am when im groupscum
I havenāt seen any deviations from his town meta this game.
Id like to see this develop over the game
At this time i think centuries is a good enough player to be same as both alignments
So far Iām liking Appel from her posts so far.
Consistent with town meta - going one by one and reading them, even if itās really early in the game
Iām reading Estel as town lean because of their tone.
Again more early definitions - normal if not towny of crich
States the obvious here without trying to read into Estelās motivations to determine if they are pushing from a town or scum PoV.
Paranoia of being ML kicks in to send massive red flags from this, but at least classifying me as scummy seems ok ish. I have no idea where theyāre talking about āstates the obviousā tho. Would usually hard scumread for this, but since the same thing happened in FoL 28 (where i was ss), i think theyāre likely town here
Ash arc:
Problematic statement was
I canāt 100% prove to you that my posts donāt come from a scum PoV D1 as only I know 100% Iām not scum.
The only way to know either way is by asking questions.
I say this is normal thing for a town to say
But then:
/vote CRichard564
for taking a position that is imo indefensible without tmi
W h o a
I say this is a bold accusation
CRich responds with:
If I get jettisoned today, vigs should kill anyone who pushed me today.
They are probably scum here.
Now thatās what i call defensive
Quite an overreaction to 1 person voting
Any way vigs kill Ash if I get jettisoned today.
I think Ash is trying to push for a mis Jettison here.
/vote Ash
first I appreciate their commitment to ājettisonā
but this feels incredibly overreactiony
like
why
ash didnāt even push CRich that hard, they were just like āwow this seems weirdā
not very different from their own occasional pushes
He claimed to town read me and now he scum reads me.
That is not town progression, that is a wolf.
ā¦do I sense a deathtunnel
Everyone I think Mist and Ash are open wolfing here.
openwolfing d1
goodie
[quote=āCRichard564, post:664, topic:82422ā]
In your original post on TWL, you said nothing regarding meta. It wasnāt until 15-20 posts later that you brought up meta as a reason. And even then, you havenāt said anything about their meta except āI have meta on himā. When asking for more details regarding what about their meta clears them, I get āvig ashā.
Iām sorry, but I donāt see that your read was āobviously from metaā
[/quote]There you go folks. This is a wolf.
ā¦yup this is a deathtunnel
i donāt see why that post is wolfy in particular
and they donāt explain it
As far as Iām concerned, you and Ash are both wolves trying to get me killed.
Why would I want to address you?
w hat
And then:
Maybe you should go away from the keyboard. If you are town, you are the most anti-town Iāve ever seen so far.
ash4fun:fine. donāt address us.
explain why our pushes are unreasonable, to anyone else.
[/quote]So why should I think that you town reading to suddenly scum reading me this fast come from a town PoV? Convince me why as Iām calling on vigs to kill your slot tonight.
CRichard564:Iām putting Mist on my ignore list. He is not helping at all.
CRichard564:I hope a vig kills Mistās slot tonight. Hello wolf.
CRichard564:You really think Iām that good at faking anger from what youāve seen so far?
Go on explain it right now.
CRichard564:Oh really you just caught on right now?
Did you manage to enroll into MENSA? Clap clap.
CRichard564:Wow Iām so impressed.
CRichard564:Hopefully vigs kill both Mist and Ash tonight.
CRichard564:And why should I believe you when youāre doing the opposite?
Go on sell me your story and perhaps Iāll change my mind.
CRichard564:Of course you donāt pay attention.
CRichard564:Right now if I could jettison anyone with 1 vote, it would be you or Ash.
Keep trying, youāre not trying hard enough.
CRichard564:Do you want a trophy?
CRichard564:As far as Iām concerned Mist. You werenāt interacting with my slot at all and then you push me out of no where. How is that not a scum vote?
CRichard564:The ball is in your court to explain how this is town motivated.
Go on show me.
CRichard564:Want to give up now?
CRichard564:Iāll start thinking your push on me might be town motivated the moment I stop calling on vigs to kill your slot. Deal?
CRichard564:No deal then? How disappointing.
Wow.
I quoted almost every post here up until that point
like
Wow. CRichard564:Good I donāt want to talk to you right now.
CRichard564:As if logic is going to win over someone who scum reads me for illogical reasons.
Iām not stupid you know.
CRichard564:Well thanks. Shall I show up at your office then?
Ok someone needs to chill
like
Light wasnāt involved CRichard564:As far as I can tell, Ash and Mist have shown no reason that makes me believe their push on me is town motivated. Why would Ash town lean me and suddenly push me if he were town?
In what world would town Ash pushing me make sense?
Iām still waiting.Look at Mist. Doesnāt interact with my slot and scum reads me for a reason that doesnāt exist.
Where is the town motivation there?This is the most descriptive post as to why they are accusing Ash and Mist to be openwolfing. 1) the argument is flawed, but 2) that was extremely firey
CRichard564:Does this progression make you think town or scum?
This is what Iām talking about in āflawedā
Itās extremely towny to switch opinions fast based on transpiring eventsConclusion:
At the very least CRichās argument is flawed . A quick change of opinion is indicative of towniness. Additionally one does not need to interact with another player to be able to call them out as scummy.From their extremely defensive reaction to a light push, I think they might be trying to intimidate the other side into backing down. Not the best strategy, in terms of game enjoyability
If Iām not mistaken, this happened when Ans bussed CRich during SFoL 61.5
Thus
/vote CRichard564Iām ready for a civil discussion
this feels a little IioA
Idk tho
Yeah, no. This was obviously just a cheap claimgrab which I fell for like a dolt
I like seeing my slot in danger it makes the game more fun
not that i am in danger lmao
i hope u dont flip town because otherwise i also die lol
Wait shit are you actually being serious? BAKA
yes of course can you actually care
Well jfc
Sheep my reads
my final message
goodbye
yes i shot light
Centuries if this is real Iām going to scream at you
idfc if it gets me banned Greek Mythology is literally UP MY ALLEY
Fuck it
Iām not dead til Iām deadI claim Jason the Argonaut
Read this, this looks disgusting and is so bad, this just looks horrible together and like you two faked this.
well youāre wrong but ok i can see it from your pov
Alternatively, I present: I thought he was joking (until I psyched myself out of it) and he was