Elemental Turbo Mafia (1/12) CANNED till further notice

What about power roles and neutrals is fun?

Everything

So choosing semi-random people and possibly getting a result is fun, hmm?

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Itā€™s the mystery aspect

Icibalus you are 100% right about peopleā€™s views about power roles

If you want the mystery aspect then going hard on reads is the most fun thing there is.

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they have no idea why they are actually fun

You cant make me like vanilla roles

Why arenā€™t they fun? Just explain it to me.

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Hmm, well reads just arent fun me as vanilla roles. I like to prove stuff

Gamer, have you ever considered that it might not be fun because you have never attempted them

you are seriously misunderstanding the point of mafia if you only care about roles

Maybeee

Thatā€™s why ive started playing misc games

The fun part of mafia is being right

The interesting part of mafia is being wrong and then getting better

See, for me thatā€™s just a logic puzzle. And a logic puzzle comprised entirely of semi-random elements is by definition not a good logic puzzle, as it dosenā€™t have a defined and interesting path to the solution.

Reading people is a psychological logic puzzle based on peopleā€™s motivations, and understanding the logic of the game not purely based on the mechanical elements but also based on the posts and understanding of the gamestate.

See, I will agree that reading people isnā€™t as fun as getting a red peek on somebody AT FIRST. But as you get more experienced at it becomes more and more addictive, which is why the overwhelming trend amongst experienced mafia players is to prefer playing village over wolf.

And donā€™t get me started on why most neutrals are really bad.

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The other reason why high-PR games are bad is because they almost always stop the wolves from actually wolfing.

You canā€™t cut it close and take risky plays when youā€™re likely to be peeked 3 times the following night, trapping your partners into an unbelievably tight PoE that is seemingly inescapable.

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And yes, this is me still being bitter about FoLT. If a SINGLE WOLF can convince the village to mislynch 4 times including a near-confirmed Mystic and yet still lose, that poses a pretty big threat to the supposed fun of rolemadness as an actual strategic game.

although half of it was the fault of the fact my wolfbuddies literally did nothing all game

oh hey I was spiritualist that game

I was really bored

being a confirmed NK is unfun