FAM Thread 3 (Day 3)

[Solic]

@Vulgard

This is weird. Esooa and nutella have no real interactions d1 and d2. None at all. Trust me, or read their ISOs yourselves and learn that I am not lying or misrepresenting it.

This is a mash…

@Vulgard

Vice versa. Esooa has no read on Nutella. Come day 3, Esooa asks who to shoot. Could be interpreted as stalling, but it should be NAI. She is given a list of three names: Emilia, Centuries, Nutella. Shoots nutella without thinking about it twice. She has no reads on any of them. She didn’t give the shot any visible thought, only point and click. And this was after nutella called her town.

Sure, nutella flipped mafia. But the utter lack of progression makes me think Esooa knew exactly what she was doing.

I don’t think shooting in an established shotlist is scummy, like you’re really filling in blanks here.

[Appelsiini]

Who’s in it?

I only remember Emilia, and I don’t remember much from her

But my gut says she’s town because she immediately cleared me for something NAI

It’s not a logical reason, but I think it’s something V!Emilia would do

[Vulgard]

@Vulgard

I could see that being a snap reaction to realizing there are two village cult leader and she’s the only mafia one. In that world, she wants to self-preserve by calling them all town.

Makes more sense to think that. I’m reconsidering my initial stance.

Wolves have lost about half their members by now. Nutella trying to self-preserve by calling WWA and Esooa town seems more likely than her trying to protect Esooa. Especially since Esooa shoots her with no hesitation despite having two other options.

Solic is correct that bussing here is no longer a great strategy.

[Vulgard]

Leaning toward WWA at least being town, but I’ll ISO WWA for due diligence anyway.

[Frostwolf103]

The reason that both Emilia and Lemon are trying to shoot NPC Barcode instead of someone from the shotlist

[Appelsiini]

I have my towncore of [Vul, Kat, Cloned, Luxy, Gorta] and [Arctic, GGhana] as townleans and I’m extremely confident in it

Mist was there, but the nutella clear is a bad look

I’ll look into it once I get home

[Vulgard]

Frost, you’ve given me another reason to think Esooa’s town. If Esooa’s mafia, she knows Barcode’s life depends on nutella being alive. With that in mind, she could stall a bit more before shooting. Since people were already shooting Barcode… might as well let people waste more shots on that before bussing (in that world).

[Appelsiini]

was in my townleans*

[Vulgard]

This post kinda implies Emilia and Lemon (or at least one of them) is town. Haha, I have TMI, shoot me lol.

[Vulgard]

@Appelsiini

Cloned

Why?

[Appelsiini]

Barcode shot Luxy twice. Was it public information that nutella was the owner, or did they do it on impulse?

I don’t find it unlikely for villagers to panic and try to stop a mechanically confirmed town from being shot

[Frostwolf103]

Public info how?

[Frostwolf103]

I was there when the shooting happen but what has that to do with Nutella?

[Appelsiini]

His aggressiveness and confidence was typical to his V meta afaik

I don’t remember much from him after that, but that doesn’t make the reasons any less valid

[Vulgard]

@Appelsiini

His aggressiveness and confidence was typical to his V meta afaik

Can you point me toward examples of that?

[Appelsiini]

I don’t know. You’re saying they’re on the shot list for shooting Barcode instead of nutella, but did they know who they should shoot? If it wasn’t public information, I don’t see how it’s suspicious.

[Vulgard]

I get the impression I’m the only person looking for wolves instead of defending villas.

[Arctic]

@an_gorta_pratai

hold on, after a quick look over I found something interesting about Vulgard, Vul calls out the wolves, but he only calls them out from my reading

@an_gorta_pratai

in his first few posts “astand is mafia” and then he calls out other dead mafia, but he never really tries to shoot them even though he suggests shooting them, which to me looks like serial bussing

@an_gorta_pratai

why do you want Vul dead?

@an_gorta_pratai

I’m a firm believer in questioning the public consensus and in my opinion I don’t find Vul all that towny (he’s mostly performative to me)

gorta is probably town

[Vulgard]

@Vulgard

I get the impression I’m the only person looking for wolves instead of defending villas.

We have like 5 wolves left, maybe 6. Stop defending people for thin reasons. The PoE can’t be 100% correct. We have a misclear or two, maybe even more.

[Luxy]

Hi I’m back what’s going on