FAM Thread 1 (Day 1)

[Blizer]

again

Katze/Vul has similar energy to Arete/Vul from RWBY to me

so i see it as T/T honestly

[Blizer]

Im heading off to bed

so night

[Joker]

good nite

[TrustworthyLiberal]

Wow regret those games back from two homesite games anyone wanna talk in a somewhat talkative mood

[Joker]

about what?

[TrustworthyLiberal]

IDK was kindda leaving that up to the person.

So anything you wanna talk about?

[Joker]

hmmm, let’s see.

I went to an aquarium recently so,

which do you like better, turtles or sharks?

[katze]

okay now i feel insecure about the read let me try to reiterate it for a sanity check

katze cases wolfgard

• early on, vul is like “katze has too many townreads ” and then later says he disagrees with my reads. doesn’t bring up concerns until i ask him specifically who hes concerned about
  • around now he replies to a list by nightingale saying it’s better despite disagreeing with 1 of the 3 players even though he disagrees with me reading her V

(the important distinction here is that he’s actually giving off the impression he’s trying to solve zori, whereas with me he just says “bad list” until i probe him to ask more)

@Vulgard

katze

also important to remember that at this point of the game, vul does not agree with me being a villager!

@Vulgard

[readlist]

so like. vul is “katze has too many reads” like 100 posts ago → this readlist with 12 people above null (when mine only had 10 – admittedly some of his reads are mechanically based) and i think this is more weird as fuck than wolfy but it’s, imo, indicative of this list being incredibly rushed (if vul was working on this while criticizing my the length of my list then… wtf?)

the tan thing is honestly just kinda gut, but it just felt really wrong in the moment (in hindsight it’s not as bad admittedly) (tbh i should just drop this entirely. even if im right it’s not why im right)

@Vulgard

@katze

vulgard is concerned about the quantity of reads over the quality of reads, the perspective is super fucking wolfy

Bad faith post #2. I questioned 6/10 of your townreads. If I wasn’t concerned about their quality I wouldn’t, or wouldn’t have been able to, question any of them.

@Vulgard

Kat and Ici can be town with reservations, don’t think their treatment of me is all that terrible. They just don’t know how to read me.

“bad faith post”
“but their treatment of me isn’t terrible and they just don’t know how to read me”

the bolded is strongly implying they think im a villager whether you agree or not

@Vulgard

@katze

its hard to explain and its the weakest of my 4 W leans (pretend vul isnt there)

I thought your handle on my wolfgame was good considering that one FoL where you caught me day 1, but the real answer all along was that you just always wolfread me.

then he goes on to start discrediting my read

@Vulgard

I think kat and Ici are not that likely to be wolves, they are just bad at reading me and my snap reaction to it is to claim they’re pushing me in bad faith.

backpedals on the “bad faith post”

@Vulgard

@katze

the pun is wolfy

We need to talk more because you don’t seem to know me at all.

@Vulgard

@katze

you don’t know me either apparently

Yeah, but at least I don’t pretend I can read you.

does the same shit to me again

@Vulgard

Kat, if I randed wolf with orange I would be happy.
Do I look happy to you?
Do I look like someone who randed wolf when he wanted to?
Do you?

My life is suffering, my existence is a tumble through the thorny woods. I am in physical, emotional and existential pain. My rolecard is green. It’s green. Green rhymes with spleen. I do feel like I was hit in the spleen by the town rand.

appeals directly to me

@Vulgard

@katze

i know ive said this 3 times but it really feels like you know you’re talking to a villager when you talk to me

you’re appealing to me in a way that shows very little uncertainty in my alignment

and like

you… are never certain on my alignment if you’re a villager. you always stress that you can’t read me!!!

(also this post preflips orange W and thats Noted:tm:)

I’m humoring you to see how you’re going to respond.

then claims it’s basically a reaction test???

@Vulgard

On the one hand it’s aggressively wrong, on the other it’s hitting roughly similar tonal notes to the time when they were actually correct in pushing me in a past FoL.

@Vulgard

I think I’m just going to write off kat’s push on me as wrong but villagery and suggest that you halfway rule kat later in the game if there are enough villagers alive to remember I said this.

basically suggests to policy me if im alive later lol

fwiw i don’t think the halfway ruling suggestion is always wolfy i just think it’s an absurd suggestion when:

@Vulgard

Surely there has to be a wolf in this grouping (probably more than one tbh):

Centuries
Frostwolf103
Marshal
katze - halfway rule this tbh
Icibalus

why are you suggesting to halfway rule someone you nullread???

@Vulgard

• I’m currently assuming you’re town, but I can’t confidently say you’re town, so I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt and asking to halfway rule you later.
• You’re in ‘null.’ I’m not sure how that constitutes as “bottom” when I have actual wolfreads below that.

and this is

literally directly contradictory

@Vulgard

@katze

this entire post is written like you’re appealing to a villager

And I’m town.

Guess I have TMI as town?

this doesn’t explicitly dispute me claim it just ignores it but that’s probably not actually AI

@Vulgard

@katze

“i assume you’re a villager but you’re also null and im going to talk to you like i know you’re a villager”

This is getting too complicated to explain.

but like

whats even happening here anymore

i know i just wrote a ton of text calling vul a wolf but rereading his iso i kinda liked some of it

fuck

[Joker]

@katze

but rereading his iso i kinda liked some of it

I hate when that happens

[TrustworthyLiberal]

Hum
as a metaphor i prefore sharks this is like for character archs and personalitys.

but as the animal turtles are much nicer and cuter as well would honestly consider having one as a pet if i wanted a pet that is.

Also turtle shells are reallyt cool

[TrustworthyLiberal]

Kat are you in try hard mode?

[katze]

not intentionally but my brain is having more reads than i anticipated

[katze]

rereading my own post i think im

pretty fucking tunneled on vul

[TrustworthyLiberal]

Fair

as i told you gonna wait for any full reads till N1

Then am gonna try to read all of thread and give a read on every player,

[TrustworthyLiberal]

Most likely?

I can read it and give thoughts if you want

[katze]

i would rather you do things on your own accord without being told to do things tbh

[TrustworthyLiberal]

Am doing that N1 otherwise am not going out of my way for things

[Luxy]

I don’t know yet tbh

[Centuries]

ordered reads

Kat
Vulgard
Ghana
Marshal
Orange
Nightingale
Sulit
Arctic
Blizer
Intensify
Ici
Mist
Aelin
Min
Windward
Centuries
Nutella
Tangeld
Amelia
Luxy
TWL
Marl
FK
Italy

rest is null

[katze]

where is like

the cutoff between tiers

like who is townie who is wolfy

etc

i dont know if i believe this is all real lol