Favorite Nk role?

Fun fact about the Alchemist Class

It’s not a Killer Type

wow

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lol. I was being stupid? Let’s analyse your post.


alchemist
-goal: survive
-one killing ability
-one ability to make yourself survive
-one ability to protect yourself from accusations (heal)

reaper
-goal: survive and (censured)
-one killing ability
-one ability to survive attacks
-one ability to silence accusers (chill)


You said they are “basically same thing” and then you call me stupid.

Reaper and Alchemist are nothing alike.

Reaper has to kill to get souls in order to survive. They can kill an unlimited amount of times which means the possibility of surviving a night attack unlimited amount of times. They have the option to bypass death immunity by using souls. Of course, Reaper has the Chill ability to stop somebody from talking during the day. Reaper cannot win if BD, Cult or Unseen are living.

Alchemist has 2 chances to kill at night, with no way of bypassing death immunity. They have 4 opportunities to be immune to death at night. They also have the option to heal anybody they want an unlimited amount of times, which includes poison and bleeding heals. They are also immune to those two negative effects. Alchemist wins with anybody.

“basically the same thing” huh? The only similarity is that they’re both Neutral.

I ask again, because frankly I’m tired of your typical replies that insinuate that I’m always against you, who’s stupid?

You know what though, I take it back. Sorry Norm, maybe you’re not a smartass. Burrito found the right word though, thanks bub :ok_hand:

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Sarcasm was lost with this one lol. Calm down and step away from the keyboard for awhile. Your emotions are showing through your words.

Smartass (noun)
Someone who is super sarcastic and annoying.

Bad/poorly executed jokes and trolling aren’t sarcasm, in my experience. :wink:

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You weren’t stupid for disagreeing, In my opinion your actions were ill chosen because it was based on the assumption i was being serious

Responding to being called a smart ass in a non-friendly way is not trolling, it is natural

I was referring to when you originally called Plex stupid as the trolling. You clearly knew it wouldn’t be well received and you chose to say it anyway.

You could say the same thing about about plex calling me a smart ass.

Not only that, but I would expect a moderator to have better impulse control then a normal player.

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And I would expect a player not to needlessly argue with moderators about how they moderate, but here we are :wink:

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Reaper is better than both other NK in my opinion:

Better than poss
-not immediately known to be present (puppet strings gives it away)
-Not outed by psychic after using their secondary ability (possessor is outed if they use possess with a psychic still alive)
-Immune to bleed/poison

Better than sorcerer
-Not being hunted by someone who’s sole goal is to kill you
-Death immunity to knights

Sorcerer*, plus Sorcerer also has a form of protection against knights (not attacking), rather than using up a limited resource that may not always be available, which seems to be a point you’ve glossed over in both “Immune to bleed/poison” and “Death immunity to knights”.

EDIT: It’s also probably worth saying that just because of that that I don’t disagree with the notion that Reaper is reasonably stronger than both Possessor and Sorcerer.

was sorcerer buffed to stop attacking if they target someone with a knight on them?

Rope, I have some advice It’s a proverb.
“Pride cometh before the fall, and a haughty spirit before the fall” (correct me on that if I am wrong)
With that I will be ignoring this thread

Arguing about balance without being up to date on patch notes is… questionable. But, yes.

Reaper kills knight, sorcerer doesn’t

And Reaper consumes a limited resource, even if it is somewhat plentiful. There are pros and cons to each, but as I said that doesn’t mean I think balance is perfect obviously.

Yes exactly my point was reaper is better, maybe the extent to which I said he was better was wrong though

Back to the topic. . .

I’d have to say, Reaper or Sorc. Poss is just too hard to win because late game there are often 2 immune targets that you can’t get past (king and MM) which can lead to a lot of unwinnable games.

Sorc can be good if your Unseen/Cult are smart enough to work with you, but often requires an Evil King to win with.

Reaper is my favorite because the ability to bypass night immunity means that late game you can pick your targets and reap accordingly. The best way to win is to try and reap BD and Unseen/Cult evenly so you are not the main target (this is easier in unseen games with the MM), then late game, once the balance of power tips, you reap the power player (king or MM usually).

I have won my share of NK games, and winning usually requires one or both of the following:

Cooperation: This will be neuts for poss/reaper, unseen/cult for sorc. Having the neuts on your side as NK can make the games very interesting. Before psycho king I won a poss game because alch took the throne then claimed NK, allowing me to claim alch and slide on by for the victory.

Mis-plays: Usually someone has to make a critical mistake that saves you. In one game this was a drunk (who I thought was evil) not calling me out for openly claiming that he used Happy Hour on me the night I was supposed to wolf. In other games it’s things like prince exe’ing the Inquisitor or BD ignoring you entirely.

I think the bets way to do it is to stall for as long as possible. Whenever two people almost have enough votes, vote for the one you think will be voted down, so the trial is wasted AND you can put the suspicion on anyone who guiltied