Fighting "he could be fool" as scorned

Still no

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by what metric

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literally have heard zero arguments that fool is good

H_Hjaisk is right more variety is good

Letā€™s make a neutral designed to make hjaisk lose. If she loses or isnā€™t in the game the neutral wins

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Youre the one using metric to judge Its bad

Yes itā€™s a bit different, but so was Revenant

Different is not good

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Yes

With reasoning supporting it that has actual game design theory backing it

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not ā€œitā€™s different so thatā€™s objectively good and funny lolā€

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So revenant was bad because it was unbalanced that lead to them winning I havent seen it but I assume that was the case

Which is the best argument Iā€™ve heard for it in years btw

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How many people have you killed on your attempt to get rid of fools and jesters

Zero but sometimes I wish

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Revenant was bad because it destroyed the foundation of the game.

Ok so less than me I see

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Adds more WIFOM I like WIFOM Thats Why I want to see it

No it was bad because I literally got to spam nonsense

It was hurtful because I wanted to try that game and it was like sit down

thatā€™s not a good mechanic in a game built on social deduction

Thatā€™s fun and fine and all in something built on it like MR

But if youā€™re trying to get people to learn to read others, including a class that makes reads inherently unreliable is unbelievably stupid. It counteracts the entire point of the game.

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Also why we ditched alch

You can still read someone as fool
And you have roles like prince to nightkill them early

1: except if they arenā€™t being stupid you canā€™t with any consistency, as some BD will always be dumb and therefore they should ideally always be indistinguishable

2: except what if you donā€™t or theyā€™re another one of the idiots I mentioned before

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