[FM] Geyde PFPs Joat9 - THE LYING DARKNESS AND FIREMAN WINS (2/2)

[KyoDaz]

@KyoDaz

That we need to be playing really optimally here to keep Prince hidden.

There is evidence here I’m a firm believer in ‘Keep the PR hidden’ rather than ‘Spew yourself as PR’

[Arete]

weren’t you scum in that game

[katze]

Kyo do you actually believe a word you are saying

If the Prince is found in that setup good literally lose

That is NOT THE SAME THING

[Marshal]

so like

you were literally fucking scum that game

[KyoDaz]

Yeah, that’s why I started claiming Prince d1 to fish him out
LOL

[katze]

@Napoleon

In order for the Unseen to win, they must fail 3 of them or assassinate the Prince.

[KyoDaz]

But it’s still optimal to keep PRs hidden
I don’t lie about methods as scum

[katze]

Wait, Kyo

Weren’t you specifically the Pretender that game, too?

Special Ability: You will appear to the Butler as one of the two possible Princes. In addition, you will know who other members of the Unseen (except the Sellsword) are, but you will not know their roles.

[KyoDaz]

I was Assassin, so no

[KyoDaz]

I was trying to fish Prince out to assassinate him

I softed Assassin everywhere

[Amelia]

@an_gorta_pratai

Ami’s town game is mostly useless stuff and memes. Scum Ami tries harder

I honestly don’t agree with this? But I don’t entirely know how to read her.

@an_gorta_pratai

Yes, Ami and Arete are the same slot

But how does it glean their alignment? That’s what I was asking.

@an_gorta_pratai

I explained it better in some follow up posts

Quote them.

@an_gorta_pratai

I told you why I think that is a scum slot. I made that post to explain my I suspected that slot. That was my case on the Arete/Ami slot and why I believe the way I do

This was more a continuation of the previous question.

@an_gorta_pratai

I obviously scum read Ami

Wasn’t obvious to me in that case

[KyoDaz]

I literally claimed every Town PR in that game to fish out roles
LOL

[Marshal]

yeah

you only do it as town

bbbbbBOOOOOOOXED IIIINNNNNN

[KyoDaz]

That makes no sense

[Marshal]

you said you lied about your methods as town to the prince, a lock town PR.

But that you never lie about your methods as scum

Goddamn this will be a juicy fucking vanity search you are currently PISSING yourself aren’t you kyo

[KyoDaz]

If you think you can actually determine my alignment based on game theory you’re clowns

[katze]

Double checked, looks like Shurian was Pretender.

Still, not only are you linking a scumgame, you are linking a game that has DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT EFFECTS if the PR is outted…

[KyoDaz]

I could link you multiple scum games where I’ve shown game theory that is true

[KyoDaz]

I don’t even have any ideas in my head and I could say that statement

[an_gorta_pratai]

Summary

@an_gorta_pratai

@Arete

I … did

like my initial vote was mostly RVS but given that my vote was still on them when I was pushing them it wasn’t like I could vote them more

I will concede that you did vote Marshal

@Arete

…you are saying that my case on Nappy is wolfy because it’s not like a case I made in SFoL 61.5

when … I was a wolf at the point when I made the case on kat in 61.5

like

what??

The thing is that case was made regardless of alignment, like you even admitted that post game, so that’s why I included it.

@an_gorta_pratai

That case on Katze was genuine and had more effort put into it, while this case just seems lazy

@an_gorta_pratai

You didn’t have to case all of those posts because the NK pool was me and Katze and we were both an easy lynch, but you did put the effort to finding why Katze was the NK through social posts even if you had TMI saying Katze was a wolf.

@an_gorta_pratai

I am saying you can put effort into making a case on someone if you wish and that case on Nappy was just a mix of laziness and OMGuS

@an_gorta_pratai

You didn’t have to spend hours looking over Katze’s ISO at late in the night

@an_gorta_pratai

@Marshal

and i’m sorry but i’m not convinced by such captivating points as “arete tried hard on an iso in a wolfgame of theirs and tried less hard here”

It’s less that Arete tried hard on an iso in a wolfgame and more of a Arete put extra effort on an iso in a wolfgame when it wasn’t needed, but I am going to play some Vidya

@an_gorta_pratai

Here’s the deal, Arete could have made a lazy case on Katze that said “this is why Katze is the NK” and most would have bought it, but they put the extra effort to make a damn book post with several hours into it. If Arete wants to prove something they can make a decent case and Arete’s case on nappy was just lacking.

@an_gorta_pratai

I know I said I was going to play Vidya, but I will reply to this before I go. I am wolf reading Arete for having a case similar to FoL 28. In FoL 28 Arete used OMGuS talking points to shade Katze and Amelia when I know that Arete can do better if they believe in a case. Arete knew that Katze was the NK, so they believed in the case. It seems that Arete DOES NOT believe in the nappy case, is pushing an easy mislynch, and made this case in response to Nappy saying how it was like Arete was just coasting on the sidelines.

@an_gorta_pratai

It depends on if they believe in the case they are presenting. A mafia member makes a proper case on a SK because they want the SK gone, so that part is NAI, but if there isn’t effort into the case they likely don’t believe it

here @Amelia I explain myself a bit better