[FM] Henry Stickmin Vig10er - Game Thread - Government (Town) Wins! (3/10)

[Arctic]

yeah i’m a new player i have no idea what i’m doing please don’t hurt me guys

[Marluxion]

He’s one of the best players on this site

[Arctic]

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[SirDerpsAlot]

@Marluxion

No he literally says in his post he’s saving the death tunneling for later.

Most people don’t realize it’s a tunnel lol

He said he was making a case on appel so he obviously was going into it looking for scummy things to start so

[SirDerpsAlot]

The only game I can remember anythibg from him is his first wolf game tbqh

[Marluxion]

I don’t even know where to begin

You don’t make a case by starting with the presumption they are mafia

You read their posts and come to a conclusion while reading

[SirDerpsAlot]

@Marluxion

I don’t even know where to begin

You don’t make a case by starting with the presumption they are mafia

Yes but

Has that ever stopped anyone lol

[Arctic]

before i made the post, i scumread appel
i made the post
and guess what? i’m still scumreading appel

it would be pretty absurd to deathtunnel someone before i even gave a read on them

[Marluxion]

Appel is town though

[SirDerpsAlot]

What was your last one or two town games Arctic

[Marluxion]

Sfol65 he was a benevolent neut
The joatjoatjoat game he was a town leader

[Marluxion]

But meta is worthless

[Marluxion]

So

[min]

I don’t see it in all honesty at least not from that example

[Arctic]

@Marluxion

Appel is town though

why
none of her posts seem more town motivated than wolf motivated to me

[illumin8]

@Arctic

take this for example
“it might be stupid to do this, but i’m going to do it anyway” - effectively just producing meaningless content to seem like they’re actually doing something

I actually had the same thought as Appelsiini here! If this is indicative of a wolf, then perhaps I got the wrong rolecard. I don’t read it as meaningless content. In fact, they are being quite transparent, which helped me come to my townread on them.

@Arctic

this seems like a really weird question to ask?
they never spoke about it themselves, but they’re asking shurian for their opinion
in other words, instead of producing content about the post itself, they’re employing the copout of asking others to do it for them while appearing useful and stimulating the thread

I asked the same thing to Shurian! I don’t think it’s an odd question to ask, as it directly relates to what Shurian was saying regarding SirDerpsALot. Why would Appelsiini answer it… if the question was specifically meant for Shurian? Can you explain this in a different way, perhaps?

@Arctic

and the same thing appears here
she could have taken the chance to talk about it herself, but she just asked the others?
the most optimal thing to do would be to ask others and give her take on the events

This is actually relatively townie from Appelsiini, as they did indeed follow through on the questioning, and the line of questions seems to have been a genuine attempt to determine if we believed in our Light reads, and how we view eachother (we being me and Marluxion!). If she didn’t expand upon it after we answered, I would be skeptical, but she did!

@Arctic

villagers would probably be more motivated to be active, although this may be NAI as i don’t think a wolf would openly say “nah i can’t be bothered to do this”
though the motivations are still >rand w

I cannot tell if you are tunneled at this point, or if this is just… a fake read?
I don’t see how the motivation here is >rand w!

@Arctic

the final part of this post seems like an awkward way of shrugging off the fact they don’t actually have much of a reason for their read on shurian, essentially indicating that it’s not well founded or perhaps not even genuine

I read it as a joke, because Shurian has been cryptic, and I thought they were imitating it xD
Perhaps I’m mistaken.

@Arctic

she seems misguided by the assumption that confidence = villager, which especially isn’t true for marl (see joat13 - he was perfectly fine with tunneling villagers early on in the day)
which tells me that the basis of this read is probably not real

I don’t know how valid this is, as I don’t know Marluxion. However, this is one place where I slightly agree with you! I think their reasonings for villagereading Marluxion are odd, to say the least, but I don’t think they’re wolfy. Made me think perhaps we have different views of how wolves would be acting in this game, as a whole!

@Arctic

why does going against the flow =/= genuine reads
going against the majority opinion is more likely to be genuine as it requires some form of individual thought, plus you actually require a stronger basis for the read, since the fact that it stands out means it’s more likely to be scrutinized

I think the key word here is “deliberately!” As in, Appelsiini believes Jane is intentionally going against the flow in an attempt to LOOK genuine. I will let her answer this herself, but that was my impression of it.

[Marluxion]

Dunno, don’t have a good example
It’s just vibes

Unironic viberead

[Marluxion]

Like I know appel could make the posts she made as a wolf. But her train of thought between posts has felt completely natural. It’s not disjointed and impossible to follow like in umineko. it’s just
Vibes

[Arctic]

@illumin8

@Arctic

villagers would probably be more motivated to be active, although this may be NAI as i don’t think a wolf would openly say “nah i can’t be bothered to do this”

though the motivations are still >rand w

I cannot tell if you are tunneled at this point, or if this is just… a fake read?
I don’t see how the motivation here is >rand w!

this was meant to say >rand v

[illumin8]

Oh okay! That makes a lot more sense