[FM] Henry Stickmin Vig10er - Game Thread - Government (Town) Wins! (3/10)

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(I don’t really understand what you mean)

[Marluxion]

@SirDerpsAlot

Feels like marl is just trying to shut me down

yes

[Marluxion]

@Appelsiini

Okay, the problem with this is that

I’ve actually kind of started to agree with Marl on illumin
Even though she hasn’t answered my pings yet, their response to Arctic’s case on me felt towny
Though I don’t entirely remember why :wowee:

But given Marl’s quick clearing of her during the beginning and maintaining it
I can see a world where he’s powerwolfing?

Uh
Now I’m starting to question myself

it hurts my ego to admit this
but i am a bad wolf
i can’t yet still socially mimic my townplay
i’m getting there but i’m not there yet

don’t tinfoil me

[Marluxion]

I started doubting my jane read the longer the game went on but i’d be more or less fine with jane or arctic going over

[Aelin]

Some thoughts while reading up:

1. Gorta is not a tree
   he is a forest
2. Gorta said he’d tree next time he randed scum, not town, but about seven different people yelled at him about it so for right now I’m going to put it out of my mind. Obviously, if this continues, it’s a different story.
3. I really don’t know how I feel about SDA, which is weird because I was just talking about it last game and I’ve never actually not read him correctly as town thusfar and it’s making me want to smash my head into my desk because it’s like… “is he actually trying to take the game more seriously or is he just a wolf?” The only real thing I can say about him that’s AI is that despite saying that he wants to be more serious, he’s still not going overboard which I feel is kinda towny because he’s a lazy ass nerd
4. @Arctic I’d like to know, do you feel excited about playing this game? What’s the most recent FM game you played? Right now I have a scumlean on you because I know you can do so much better than this as town.
5. Appel makes me want to snap my neck
   like… sometimes I’m going “welp yeah this makes sense” and then sometimes I’m looking at things and i absolutely do not understand how the fuck she got there
   and it almost feels like she’s refusing to make reads on me directly, and then keeps pairing me with people and going “these aren’t W/W” whilst never trying to go “is Light a wolf”
   but she even brought it up and then still didn’t do it and I’m just??? I do not understand???
6. I haven’t been reading illumin8’s wallposts too much, but whenever I sit down with them it seems like a lot of iioa and level 1 thoughts

here's the full thing

@illumin8

@Marluxion

Gorta and SDA I’m going to give half of day 1 before i start calling them scum.

Both have said they want to change their playstyles and i’m not going to scumread them for wanting to play differently. That being said, if i still have scumleans on them 24~ hours into the day i’m going to bring down the fury of 1000 suns

I really like this post for some reason xD

@Marluxion

why are you bein’ so formal arctic

@Marluxion

your verbiage is different from usual in a way i’m finding hard to describe

@Marluxion

back when i was a mod i was really good at sussing out alts invading the discord based on this kinda stuff

i can’t really explain it but you feel different from usual

This thought feels like it comes from a villager. Especially the final quote, where he observes the similarities between Arctic’s behavior and something rather specific that I’m unsure a wolf would come up with very easily!

@Marluxion

i really dont wanna be THAT guy but this post just set my gut on fucking fire

i know you said you wanted to play differently but you dont seem like the kind of guy to give a shit what people read you as if you’re villa, you just want to dunk wolves.

This also feels real!

@Marluxion

how many people are here right now

i wanna play a game
@Appelsiini play this game real quick before you leave

@Marluxion

okay

every single person in the thread

@Marluxion

type out a single name

of a person you’re pretty certain is a wolf
and hit Reply at exactly xx:23

From my limited experience, I find actions like this to be town motivated more likely than not. Firstly, his response was something not entirely consensus, which in turn brings much more attention to himself and his read than a wolf would probably want? Secondly, wolves simply… don’t tend to think of these things xD

However, this is around the time where his Light read dissipates! I find the lack of progression slightly alarming, as he doesn’t mention Light past this point I don’t think, and Light was one of his high wolfreads at the start of the Day. I’m not sure what to make of it!

@Marluxion

This is not a real thought

Appel asking questions rather than just forcing out takes is indicative of solving. Arctic sounds like he’s giving a wolf advice on how to not look scummy rather than trying to actually show that appel doesn’t look towny

I like this post. I didn’t even think about this Arctic post in that way; yet I can see how he made this analysis!

@Marluxion

Dunno, don’t have a good example

It’s just vibes

Unironic viberead

I’d really like you to explain your top townreads a bit more, please.

@Marluxion

Derps might be the third wolf but willaging is in his name so I won’t ride or die on that yet.

This is about where there was a pivot to people believing Marluxion could be a wolf; around when SirDerpsAlot mentioned his wolfread. I don’t think it’s very smart to read into this post to be honest! There are many conclusions you could come to based on a potential derpclear, and if it isn’t distinctly one way or another, it’s probably best to leave it. I treat derpclears of this level how I normally treat wolf slips. They are ultimately =rand, unless extreeeeemely blatant! xD

@illumin8

@Marluxion

Gorta and SDA I’m going to give half of day 1 before i start calling them scum.

Both have said they want to change their playstyles and i’m not going to scumread them for wanting to play differently. That being said, if i still have scumleans on them 24~ hours into the day i’m going to bring down the fury of 1000 suns

I really like this post for some reason xD

this means nothing because they don’t elaborate on it

@illumin8

@Marluxion

why are you bein’ so formal arctic

@Marluxion

your verbiage is different from usual in a way i’m finding hard to describe

@Marluxion

back when i was a mod i was really good at sussing out alts invading the discord based on this kinda stuff

i can’t really explain it but you feel different from usual

This thought feels like it comes from a villager. Especially the final quote, where he observes the similarities between Arctic’s behavior and something rather specific that I’m unsure a wolf would come up with very easily!

this feels rather disjointed
like, they had something small and then went “maybe I shouldn’t have something small” and tried to expand on it a little bit
regarding the second part, he literally said that he can’t describe or explain it and yet, illumin8 is calling it “rather specific” when all Marl is doing is bringing up why he’s decent at picking out tones

@illumin8

@Marluxion

i really dont wanna be THAT guy but this post just set my gut on fucking fire

i know you said you wanted to play differently but you dont seem like the kind of guy to give a shit what people read you as if you’re villa, you just want to dunk wolves.

This also feels real!

con…grats…?

@illumin8

@Marluxion

how many people are here right now

i wanna play a game
@Appelsiini play this game real quick before you leave

@Marluxion

okay

every single person in the thread

@Marluxion

type out a single name

of a person you’re pretty certain is a wolf
and hit Reply at exactly xx:23

From my limited experience, I find actions like this to be town motivated more likely than not. Firstly, his response was something not entirely consensus, which in turn brings much more attention to himself and his read than a wolf would probably want? Secondly, wolves simply… don’t tend to think of these things xD

However, this is around the time where his Light read dissipates! I find the lack of progression slightly alarming, as he doesn’t mention Light past this point I don’t think, and Light was one of his high wolfreads at the start of the Day. I’m not sure what to make of it!

level 1 thoughts that are incredibly basic
i don’t disagree that it’s kinda odd that marl kinda just… stopped pushing me but this actually makes me feel like Marl’s towny because I know he literally just jumps from his strongest scumread to his strongest scumread from moment to moment
and as scum he’d much rather keep his options open and try and put pressure on multiple people

@illumin8

@Marluxion

This is not a real thought

Appel asking questions rather than just forcing out takes is indicative of solving. Arctic sounds like he’s giving a wolf advice on how to not look scummy rather than trying to actually show that appel doesn’t look towny

I like this post. I didn’t even think about this Arctic post in that way; yet I can see how he made this analysis!

level 1 thought and didn’t add any of their own analysis or whether or not they agreed

@illumin8

@Marluxion

Derps might be the third wolf but willaging is in his name so I won’t ride or die on that yet.

This is about where there was a pivot to people believing Marluxion could be a wolf; around when SirDerpsAlot mentioned his wolfread. I don’t think it’s very smart to read into this post to be honest! There are many conclusions you could come to based on a potential derpclear, and if it isn’t distinctly one way or another, it’s probably best to leave it. I treat derpclears of this level how I normally treat wolf slips. They are ultimately =rand, unless extreeeeemely blatant! xD

lots of words to say “this is NAI”

i see people so ill stop this for now

[Aelin]

Sorry, I was finishing up the other post
it’s stuff like “the marl radar” and their post on appel which i can’t follow whatsoever

[Marluxion]

@an_gorta_pratai

yeah, I just hate the liberal use of emojis

but
what about the conservative use of emojis

[Shurian]

What about my post on Appel?

[Arctic]

@Aelin

I’d like to know, do you feel excited about playing this game? What’s the most recent FM game you played? Right now I have a scumlean on you because I know you can do so much better than this as town.

uhh
the most recent game i played was sfol65
before that, joat13

the only exciting thing about this is when i get to execute some bad guys

[Aelin]

@Marluxion

@SirDerpsAlot

Feels like marl is just trying to shut me down

yes

Why are you trying to shut him down instead of letting him get his thoughts out?

@Marluxion

I started doubting my jane read the longer the game went on but i’d be more or less fine with jane or arctic going over

how do you feel about it right now?

[Marluxion]

@Aelin

how do you feel about it right now?

still catching up

[Aelin]

I’m asking this because you said “more or less”
What are your exact thoughts on Jane? GTH which one would you lynch?

[Aelin]

Alright, catch up and then answer, no worries.

[Marluxion]

why has all your solving for your past 20 posts been exclusively wolf me worlds when you townread me

[Shurian]

Light?

[Aelin]

@Shurian

Appel in the first half of the game was not hard taking at all if you’ve noticed. More or less she was leading people and prodding people for content, which would refer to your “lack of hard ideas”, which would refer to my first post on Appel’s scum tell… which apparently I didnt mention that.

Huh.

Anyway, Appel picked up after I said those so that’s something I guess.

Like, Appel would be in the same boat with Illum as far as I can tell.

There’re reasons why I TR them instead of SR them. My secrets. U find ur own TR reasons >:(

I literally don’t know where this is going… anywhere.

[Aelin]

Reading this post feels like being on the outside of an inside joke

[Shurian]

This was never meant to be a post with a conclusive conclusion

It was just my thoughts on Appel and how I noted them.

Must there be somewhere that the post has to go to?

[Shurian]

I think it’s mostly the last sentence that caught you

Lemme dig out a post I had made.

[Marluxion]

@illumin8

I still like ArcticXI, by the way!
I don’t agree with their view on Appelsiini but I can see how they reach all conclusions, and I think it’s villager-esque I also really like their… nonchalant tone!

Don’t want to go there right now.