[FM] Henry Stickmin Vig10er - Game Thread - Government (Town) Wins! (3/10)

Only 3 more hours until day ends. : )

i uh
dont have too long before i have to sleep arctic

In that time can you please explain your villagereads? I feel like Iā€™ve asked so many times xD

The longer you withhold reasonings for your take on me the more paranoid I become! The last explanation I distinctly remember is you comparing my posts to Soneji?

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the explanation for the scumread on light is missing at this pointā€¦ iā€™m not sure why, but i can say it raises the equity of marl/light w/w because this is a very similar thing to what marl was doing to PKR d1 - distancing without an actual basis
though this doesnā€™t mean much unless light is wolf with marl

itā€™s very evident light is not trying to fly under the radar, heā€™s been doing the opposite of that
marl also said that appel asking about othersā€™ opinions was also a good look for them in his rebuttal of my read on her? so i donā€™t know where this comes from
thereā€™s a chance itā€™s a scramble to find a reason for his read on light after he forgot with that early distancing but again, this second point doesnā€™t mean much for non-light/marl worlds

a low involvement question from the person who just complained about low involvement questions :joy_cat:

if you take a look at this for longer than 10 seconds, you realize that there isā€¦ actually no reason given here for TRā€™ing illumin since the entire basis is that theyā€™re an alt? take that away and youā€™re left with ā€˜i think youā€™re probably townā€™ and thatā€™s it

bolded is indicative of the hedge very common in awkward wolf posts

it was completely unnecessary to say i ā€œcould be a wolfā€ when i had not yet given any content
thereā€™s no reason to say that i could/couldnā€™t be a wolf when i had almost indisputably given nothing AI at this point
itā€™s like he had the preconception that i was town to begin with, in other words - TMI

i actually like this post because as a wolf (assuming light is town) marl blatantly calling illumin incorrect here is probably not the best thing to do? especially with how townread illumin was, they could probably influence the game enough to get him executed

this is seriously reminding me of marlā€™s treatment of PKR in joat13 where they were w/w
read his D1 in that game, he didnā€™t have many posts and was executed D1
to summarise he was effectively pushing PKR repeatedly over the same thing from an early point in the game as a method of distancing

marl/light w/w world is unironically skyrocketing

now i have to question whether marl would really do this as a wolf knowing he canā€™t actually explain the read
meh
the read itself i think was pretty bad but it seems like quite a risky thing for a wolf to do

i donā€™t know whether itā€™s worth trying to read this game thing since i think itā€™s most likely NAI because as town it forces reads from people but as a wolf it stops anything greater than unexplained reads being thrown out

this seems ~real
actuallyā€¦ what happened to marlā€™s push on jane
did that just disappear from the face of the earth

marl said meta is worthless but earlier he asked jane for lightā€™s wolf meta
:joy_cat: ?

ah yes, this is certainly a post
ā€œitā€™s not wolfy but itā€™s not villageryā€
yet he proceeds to scumread me from it
there is dissonance between marlā€™s thoughts and actions/votes here, with the last 2 things iā€™ve pointed out

bolded = LAMIST
i remember him saying something along these lines in joat13
people should really check him in that game, he only had like 80 posts or something

i donā€™t know how objectively i can talk about this post, but this is a blatant misrepresentation of my intentions
i had already scumread appel before i made my post, and i was using that post to explain my read

this read has progressed byā€¦ exactly nothing
iā€™d expect a bit more of a read on appel by now, since she is his top TR but thatā€™s not the case

already spoke about this earlier, but even in worlds where appel and marl are not partners this is a bad look because it seems like heā€™s trying to get people to follow appelā€™s scumread on gorta to try and cause an ML on an LHF with 8 posts who no one should have a conclusion on

gaslighting:tm:
in a wolfy or town way, i donā€™t know

this is like exactly what marl said about killing PKR in joat13
something along te lines of ā€œif iā€™m right, kill wind tomorrowā€
:joy_cat:

here it is, the infamous derpclear attempt
i donā€™t buy this
iā€™ll let you decide if you buy this, thereā€™s not really much else to talk about here

(of course you canā€™t, because i caught you)

more hedge:tm: in bolded, though i do appreciate he actually explained this read
i want to TR this post but the hedge is stopping that :joy_cat: so iā€™ll let you decide how much this affects the quality of the post


i probably shouldnā€™t have made this so long because i actually want people to read it but
there are like 2 posts iā€™ve found villagery and the rest of the 170 posts are either fluff, outright wolfy, reminiscent of his joat13 game or inconsistent

outside of the tinfoils iā€™m getting with marl/light worlds the main thing pinging me is the inconsistency between how he suggests to play the game and how he himself is playing it, such as how useful he really thinks meta is

needless to say, this is much worse than appel
/vote marluxion @Intensify @EliThePsycho

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seriously
read marlā€™s joat13
i want to know if anyone else thinks his treatment of light in this game is reflective of his treatment of PKR in that game where they were w/w

iā€™d probably take a look at illumin because it makes a lot of sense for at least one wolf to be in this bundle of TRs you three have got going on

I think you and appel are town for posts you made earlier. One of your first walls i felt was extremely towny.

Appelā€™s progression and tone has just been really good, i caught her immediately last game and i think id be able to catch her again if she were a wolf here

Shurian is posting very similarly to qunatum mafia, heā€™s not being evasive and is just being straight shooter shuri

thatā€™s honestly it for strong townreads

Arctic for my solving purposes iā€™m not going to read that post because i can already tell from the first couple lines it will just deepen my tunnel

Why can me / illumin / appel not just be three town?

But you think heā€™s w/w with Light? :confused: :sweat_smile:
Iā€™m confusedā€¦

Iā€™m positive thereā€™s a wolf in arctic/marl honestly

Oh! I misread this post entirely! Please ignore me :laughing:

that was in response to marl asking me what i would do if he flipped vā€¦

Why is that? I canā€™t help but feel your recent behavior reminds me of a wolf trying to chain wagons!

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Dont you dare start throwing shade on me now

Itā€™s because the way theyā€™re interacting is weird as hell

And does not feel t/t

i actually was getting the same kind of vibes that min was encouraging a me / arctic tvt earlier and thatā€™s kinda the answer i was looking for from arctic when i asked him where heā€™d look if we both end up being town

that or jane also seems to be content coasting while arctic and i go for each otherā€™s throats

Marl you liking that post has made me want to send you to the shadow realm