[FM] Henry Stickmin Vig10er - Game Thread - Government (Town) Wins! (3/10)

[Appelsiini]

@Arctic

but gorta is inactive as town, so how can you conclude that he is just a wolf with no motivation after last game?
and how is he more AFK than usual?

I explained this to you when I condensed my progress on Gorta’s slot
I’m pretty sure I further explained it when you further questioned it
I’ve been mentioning it everytime I’ve interacted with you during the last 12 hours

I didn’t know Gorta is that inactive as town, because I honestly can’t remember playing a towngame with him
People told me it was NAI for him
I dropped it when I realized it was NAI
I decided to sheep Derps and Shurian’s read on him instead

[Aelin]

… I don’t believe that you didn’t know gorta was a tree

[Arctic]

@Appelsiini

I didn’t know Gorta is that inactive as town, because I honestly can’t remember playing a towngame with him

how could you tell it would be easy to solve him then?
let me find one of your earlier posts

@Appelsiini

I think Gorta will be easy to read when you leave him be and just look at how he handles the thread as a whole. He usually has a hard time producing content while he’s there as scum, so I’m just looking out for those filler posts.

how did you think you were easily going to be able to read gorta if you’re now telling me you can’t remember a towngame from him

[Appelsiini]

I did know he was generally a low-poster
I didn’t know he straight up doesn’t play

[Arctic]

@Appelsiini

I didn’t know Gorta is that inactive as town, because I honestly can’t remember playing a towngame with him
People told me it was NAI for him
I dropped it when I realized it was NAI
I decided to sheep Derps and Shurian’s read on him instead

[Aelin]

Appel, what is gorta’s nickname?

[Appelsiini]

Because I assumed Gorta lost WiM after Umineko
I thought the theory made perfect sense
Why are you blaming me for pushing him when I dropped the push early into D1 after finding out he’s usually like this
Why are you acting like I’m still pushing “Gorta scum” agenda and that I was planning to kill him in LyLo

[Appelsiini]

Arete is also a tree
Arete tends to play the game when they are in the game
Weh

[Arctic]

@Appelsiini

Because I assumed Gorta lost WiM after Umineko
I thought the theory made perfect sense

…exactly! he lost wim after umineko, so he’ll probably be less motivated
that doesn’t mean you can scumread him for it, because you can’t deduce whether he’s just town or demotivated scum

[illumin8]

@Aelin

This is, quite simply put, false. My main reason for scum reading Min was due to misreading a sentence, and I believed and still do believe that you are scum. If I’m trying to push agenda, I’m going for something like Shurian/Arctic scumteam except that’s the opposite of what I did.

You refused to acknowledge the context behind me being a nonvoter at EoD, stated that nothing I do is particularly townie and everything is ‘basic’ from me.
You misconstrued my words multiple multiple multiple times:

@illumin8

Regarding nothing I’m doing being particularly townie; of course I disagree! Entirely, in fact. I feel I am easy to pick out as nobody here has experience with me, and I am quite alone in the thread. I don’t fully believe you to be a wolf, but I don’t truly feel like you’ve read my posts if you think nothing I’ve done is notable. I feel I have done nothing BUT try to provide reads and kickstart discussion, as well as analyze worlds outside of what is considered consensus.

@Aelin

If you are a wolf, you only have one partner so it wouldn’t seem odd for you to be alone in thread, although I disagree that you are
And, I asked for some of your meta and you refused so of course I don’t know how you play

@illumin8

Light, I do not mean alone in the thread in the sense that I am a villager because I have no support from my pack. This is misconstruing my words whether intentional or not. I mean alone in the thread in the sense that I am a very easy push now that the person who heavily townread me is dead!

@Aelin

There’s only so much I can do while showerposting but calling my reads level 1 because you dislike them is in poor taste

@illumin8

You are misconstruing me. They are not Level-1 simply disagree with them. In fact, them being Level-1 is something that has led me to disagreeing with them!

@Aelin

I have a few main issues with Illumin8. It feels a lot more like they’re smelling blood in the water with how they’re trying to discredit me and ignore my reads by calling them bad. They keep focusing back on the same points, possibly because I admitted that I didn’t have a good reason for my lack of ability to actively stay in thread at EoD yesterday, and also get ‘annoyed’ about nobody evaluating dead players’ reads and then just ignores them when they don’t fit their mental space, such as Jane’s read on me.
Going further on that front, it definitely feels like the push on me is scum motivated because it went from “Light is towny” to “Tinfoiling Jane/Light scumteam” and then to “Okay well Light is probably scum” after Jane flipped V which just feels like I’m being setup for a mislynch.

You don’t respond to my response to your false accusations
You scumread me for being Level-1, but your entire analysis of me was Level-1. You keep saying that I’m pushing you for having bad reads, when I’m pushing you for having wolfy reasonings.

You put suspicion on Appelsiini for hammering Jane, when it is entirely NAI, as Jane would be dying there regardless.
You won’t allow anyone to find anything villagery out of an_gorta, and keep mentioning that he said he would… be a slanker if he randed wolf?

I believe you came into today to push agenda against me, not Shurian or Arctic. Min too, perhaps.

[Arctic]

@Appelsiini

Why are you blaming me for pushing him when I dropped the push early into D1 after finding out he’s usually like this

that’s not my issue, my issue was that you said gorta was someone you were confident about being a wolf, essentially your strongest scumread, despite having only 2 posts on him which i’ve now explained are completely illogical

[Aelin]

…
. . .
/vote Appel harder

[illumin8]

I don’t understand this conversation

[illumin8]

Who is ready for the Shurian/an_gorta scumteam?

[Arctic]

the conversation is that i am god and we sheep me

[Arctic]

okay fine

i’m pretty sure appel just boxed herself in by saying she didn’t know gorta was a tree and is usually inactive as town

[illumin8]

@illumin8

Who is ready for the Shurian/an_gorta scumteam?

To be clear, this is a joke over how much we are all at eachother’s throats currently, while they are nonexistent. I do not believe this is the case.

[illumin8]

@min what are your thoughts on everything?

[Appelsiini]

Why would he be demotivated for getting dunked on as scum… as town? He doesn’t need to (not) worry about looking towny as town, so there’s no stress, and thus he shouldn’t feel disappointed for “failing”

@Arctic

that’s not my issue, my issue was that you said gorta was someone you were confident about being a wolf, essentially your strongest scumread, despite having only 2 posts on him which i’ve now explained are completely illogical

This logic only makes sense for a wolf if you think I’m pushing agenda in order to miscuddle Gorta
I’d like you to tell me where you have seen this after I dropped my push

[Arctic]

@Appelsiini

This logic only makes sense for a wolf if you think I’m pushing agenda in order to miscuddle Gorta

no, i don’t think you were pushing agenda, i think you just made a mistake