So in Short Fuse like half of his interactions were just awkward W/W theater with me, which Alice picked up on less than twelve hours into the thread, and I’m not seeing anyone here that he seems to be doing anything similar with. His meta is also to do things that people are likely to read as good in-depth analysis (e.g. extensive Isos) as scum, while as town he’s more likely to just say whatever’s on his mind. I think this is why I used to always read him so wrongly, because he was weirdly putting in like five times more effort as W when as town he was memeier. He also has a more confident tone here than in Short Fuse, in SF we were talking some in scum chat about how he was too nervous and that was kind of obvious in his tone there and I’m not seeing it here.
Vote Count:
| Player | Voters | Count |
|---|---|---|
| Kai_5 | Alice, Astand, Solic, Boss110, Hippolytus | 5/12 |
| Astand | Arete, Teleology | 2/12 |
| Solic | SetToBlow, Vulgard | 2/12 |
| Datbird | H_Hja | 1/12 |
| Chiangsmokers | Marshal | 1/12 |
I don’t know why but hearing that conversion is probably a thing has somehow made me want to try this game even less than after you guys FOOLISHLY rejected Mount Doom.
So I have came across a problem and I have too many town reads
I think the only conclusion here is to town read a select group of people and murder the rest
@Kirefitten I called out Ginger as being Alice’s teammate because in the mindset that Alice lock scum lynch her I was immediately looking for associations too. Since I had it firmly established in my mind she was pulling an openwolfing gambit (after she said Ginger wasn’t going to die) I immediately called Ginger lock scum.
In my mindset at that point, it would make no sense to do a gambit like this with a town member because said town member would have no reason to play along or not to call the gambit out.
The thing is I don’t think derp was actually bled by town because it makes zero sense for them to bleed derp
It’s STB’s first time, right? There’s basically no way this flips scum wallposts = locktown, I’m not sure I’ve literally ever seen a first-time wolf in their first game ever do anything remotely resembling an Iso. Basically the only way STB could even theoretically be scum is if they’re being hella coached, but wolves here basically never coach people so this is pretty much locktown for newbie effort.
Hippo said before that Derps could’ve been bled by a slank vig.
It would make sense, although a bleeding slank vig is something I’ve never seen before.
My only logical conclusion is a group of highly elite skilled scum players have come together and saw derp being obvious town but didn’t want to waste their night kill on them so they instead bled them
Healers should heal them tonight especially since night immunity is bypassed
It could be a slank vig that has limited bleeds per day (sort of like people other than PKR have claimed but he’s the only one who’s been claimvigged). I actually kind of like the idea of a slankvig that bleeds people, if people know they’re dying without a heal they’ll probably be more inclined to contribute 
I was about to post something similar; I like the idea of a slank vig that bleeds instead of killing outright.
Assuming this is a slank vig but I think that makes the most sense.
The question is whether it’s town or scum aligned; would scum have a claimvig and a slankvig in this setup?
Like I said, it could be scum-aligned.
If it’s scum-aligned though, it feels a little overpowered to have two dayvigs and that’s not even all of scum’s kill power since they have factional too.
There were a couple votes on Derps, and most of the momentum from that push fizzled after the bleed. I’d expect a scum-aligned slankvig to bleed one of the people who’s getting less pressure because bleeding Derps would make it way more difficult to lynch him. If this was the work of a slank vig I think it’s a town one.