[FM] Mafia Academy 1 - Mafia Victory

I assume they were like cleaned

Hi. Weā€™re reevaluating briefly, mainly because of the NK. In the meantime, Iā€™d like to hear from @MaximusPrime.

Wait thereā€™s an NK?

I assume this is something lost in translation; Iā€™m talking about Jakeā€™s death, not a neutral killing role. Obviously Arete and I were thinking hard about Jake being in the PoE, so weā€™re running through something right now.

Used my ability on Arete/Disquieted last night
I got one result; it was:
Yes

Alright.

Hereā€™s the deal: if you have nothing to do, read MaximusPrimeā€™s posts and tell me what you think of his alignment. Yesterday was a quiet day cause the lynch was obvious. Today, not so much. So letā€™s start talking about this.

Well you solved my thing pretty quickly.

Its quiet >_>

Completely baffling nightkill.

Also lol Mercā€™s flip was cleaned.

I have a feeling the PoE is blatantly incorrect. I need to re-eval. Jake flipping town is pretty important. Maybe we really did have w/w wagons on D1.

Also my post restriction went even further down, so have fun with that.

I would still lynch Maxwell but right now Iā€™m not so sure. Also I have to look at Arete/Disquieted again.

Maxwell is a Mafia Godfather Rolecop

Am I supposed to believe this or something? Why me? No one even took notice of me in my absence, and am I supposed to take note of this as real?

Who targeted him, and stuck whatever thing on me?

Retrospective votecounts:

(according to flips)

Day 1:

PKRiestess (6): Geyxy, Derps, Simon, Marshal, Nerbins, Aretted
Nerbins (4): Jake, Maxwell, Astand, PKRiestess
Kai (2): Mercenary, Shurian
Aretted (2): PoisonedVulgard, FireKatze
Marshal (1): Kai
Jgoesemist (1): Maximus

Day 2:

FireKatze (9): Astand, PoisonedVulgard, Geyxy, Jake, Derps, Nerbins, Maximus, Aretted, Maxwell
Mercenary (4): Kai, Simon, FireKatze, DatBird
Geyxy (1): Shurian

Day 3:

Mercenary (7): Maxwell, Astand, Aretted, PoisonedVulgard, Nerbins, Simon, DatBird


Okay. What I gather from this is that:

  • Some people have potentially not voted scum the entire game. Those people include: Shurian, Maximus. They were independently town to me before, but now Iā€™m not so sure. Three days and they were always on town wagons if we assume all flips were true. They also did not vote Merc on day 3, although that matters less since Merc was always getting lynched. There wasnā€™t even a counterwagon.
  • Arete/Disquieted have voted on every single top wagon. The problem is that they were late voters on each of them except Merc. Maybe Iā€™m reading into something that isnā€™t there, though.
  • Nerbins has also voted on every single top wagon and I have no idea what to think about this. Weā€™ve had a cleaned flip, a town flip and a scum flip, so itā€™s hard for me to analyze why that might be the case.
  • Simonā€™s votes look really good. Early vote on PKRiestess, pushing the potential scum wagon on the day when we lynched town (early voter on that wagon too), and also voted Merc on D3. I think heā€™s cleared town based on his votes alone.
  • Derps has mostly just been voting top wagons and his votes do not seem very relevant. I want to call him town for this, but the way heā€™s been playing until now prevents me from doing that. I want to see more from him.
  • Astand has been pushing a ton. He has been a very early voter on multiple wagons. While I do still think heā€™s town-motivated, we probably shouldnā€™t trust him nearly as much as before. We might have misread him and heā€™s just mafia pushing agenda while claiming neutral. Notice how he didnā€™t vote scum D1 (unless Nerbins is W) and started a town wagon on D2. Based on votes alone, this looks extremely bad.
  • DatBirdā€™s votes have been oddly tentative this game. He is a late voter on multiple wagons and I feel like this lack of confidence is scum indicative for him. If only Merc wasnā€™t cleaned, he would be confirmed scum to me (unless Merc was town). Either way, I think he has enough wolf equity for me to lynch him.
  • Maxwellā€™s votes look really weird. Early voter on Nerbins, late voter on FireKatze, super early voter on Merc. I have no idea what this means. He didnā€™t vote confirmed scum (unless Merc was scum), and if Merc was scum, this could have been a bussing vote since Merc was always dying that day. His votes on town wagons were fairly tentative (I do understand that he was the second voter on Nerbins, but since PKRiestess was voting there, itā€™s possible it was a scum concerted effort). His vote on the cleaned flip was very confident. I feel like itā€™s scum indicative for him but I need input from someone else to solidify this read.

Based on votes, I think:
Shurian and Maximus have to be looked at.
Arete/Disquieted also, but I have no idea what to look for so please help me townies.
We absolutely need to solve Nerbinsā€™ alignment, I think itā€™s crucial to solving the game.
Astand looks much worse if we look at votes alone. I know he claimed neutral, but his votes are still really bad in hindsight.
DatBird and Maxwell look bad based on their votes and theyā€™ve already looked bad independently. I think I would lynch there today if we donā€™t figure out anything better. I know that I said ā€œooOoOOoOO the PoE is probably badā€, but upon re-evaluating I still think these two contain at least one scum.

Based on process of elimination, I thinkā€¦ well. I think I donā€™t have anyone I can trust. Iā€™m starting to think a lot of my earlier reads were wrong. I need townreads instead of scumreads.
Please clear thyselves for me.

Interesting. Do you think this might be true?

Speaking of Nerbinsā€™ alignment, I think lynching Maxwell today spews Nerbins as V if Maxwell is W. There is no way two wolves voted on a third wolf as a counterwagon to a wolf wagon.

And if Maxwell flips town, then Nerbins starts to look much worse. Basically, a Maxwell lynch gives us important info from my POV.

Iā€™m open to other ideas though. I think Iā€™ve said everything I want to say at the moment. Since my post restriction is even moreā€¦ restrictive now, I think Iā€™ll refrain from posting until I see more content.

Just so you know, Iā€™m Kai now so I have no idea what the frick he did.

Am I the only person who still wants to play this game? And my post restriction is probably one of the worst in comparison to the other players alive. I should be the one unmotivated.

Well, anyway. Please give me material. Pretty please.

Fine. What do you want to do? Have you caught up on the thread at all? Do you have anything substantial to say? Your slot has generally been townread but it can change.

Read up on the thread and not talk too much in one day.

Not had chance too, well I have today but yesterday I was on a 278 mile car drive when I replaced in so I had no opportunity. Planning on reading later but we all know I probably wonā€™t. It doesnā€™t seem that hard though.

I would have, but Maxwell had already outed something important that I had to say, so not right now. Tonight I might but I doubt it.

One thing I do want to know is.
@Vulgard @PoisonedSquid
@Arete @disquieted
@Simon
Have any of you outed your class at all? Donā€™t tell me what it is, I just need it for knowledge.

No, Vulgard and I havenā€™t outted our class and I donā€™t think weā€™re planning on doing so anytime soon

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Be warned. Iā€™m on your back.

(Not for the reason I suspect you or anything)