Alright that’s it I’m replacing out <:(
(This is meme)
Let’s go. Time to choo choo like Marluxion.
SirDerpsy - TL
Now, I’ll use the weapon I hate, meta.
In my notebook, it says that Derps does indeed wait for his reads to come out naturally. And indeed, it does. Even without meta, he’s relaxed and casual… and I’d be inclined to townlean.
Also deal with it I don’t have 50 posts like you do, blame me stupidity.
I noticed you talking about the voting system. Now, I’m interested, what makes you think this? I mean, how would we use the VC at EoD to gather clearer insights into people’s motivation? I want to know how you’re planning to do so.
I made a mistake of scrolling down and seeing Derps and Merc’s shitpost in response to that. I can’t stop laughing now, oh boy i need a breather
Here are my thoughts on the whole Marshal/Jgoes situation:
At some times, it feels like Marshal is scum.
At other times, the inverse seems true.
Could it be that Marshal v Jgoes is TvT?
Here is my Read of everyone, in order via Signups.
Arete/Disquieted Hydra (TownRead)
Arete (4) (TownRead)
I really don’t like how early you revealed this information. The scum might not have known that it exists, and now they do.
Their Readlist
I understand this. I will respond to both of you separately.
Townreading Astand for producing content and solves.
I would like you to try to read it, @Arete
As there are basically no outed mechanics (Post restricts, Anti-Claim, etc. are outed), Mechanic talk seems… strange at best.
Started off by townreading Shurian because they made a mistake. Later went on to townread them for their wallpost, and the conclusions they drew.
Either a No-Poster or No-Contenter
Townreading PriestKidRyan for going against the grain of the thread. I can understand why, and agree.
I agree with Arete here, in that Marshal doing Lulreactest is NAI at best. Also, they say that Marshal quoting from a Guide to defend themselves (Instead of defending his own damn reads, I suppose). I like Arete here.
Not much substance here. I can understand, but not much reference to anything specific.
See: Arete Datbird
I disagree. SDA openly admitted that breaking their post cap makes them lose their right to vote. They could just say “I didn’t vote because I couldn’t vote”. And, even if they don’t do this, they could burn through their posts and lose their vote because of this.
See: Arete Datbird
I did create 1 post, but meh.
See: Arete Datbird
I agree that scumreading Merc for not directly scumreading Marshal while implying it is a good point.
I can understand Arete here, although I may not agree.
See: Arete Datbird
No specific references, although I can understand
This seems like a reasonable towncore as of now.
Disquieted (1) (Slight scumlean)
Pushing Jgoes for their hedginess.
Scumreading Jgoes for their hedginess.
Shading Jgoes for asking about their partner… I can see why.
Pressuring Marshal for their Reactest.
Astand (14) (Slight Scumread)
Shurian:
Snag no u marshal
/vote Marshal
Seems like shading Shurian for… reasons.
How could you know this? This seems like TMI.
I agree. Why did we? The Mafia might not have even known they existed.
Townleaning MaxiPrime for not being aware of mechanics. I don’t particularly like this line of reasoning, as at best it’s them not reading.
I can’t tell what you’re reading them as here.
You seem to be Townleaning Shurian for slight Fluffposting? I don’t particularity like this like of thinking, as it’s more tailored to the person, than the alignment.
I’m not addressing this for “Angleshooting” reasons
I think questioning this is definitely justified.
Dodging their reading of Jgoes because “I might be able to read their Hydra better”. I really don’t like this.
It didn’t feel like it was. It felt more like a LulReactest.
This post is basically:
Fluff Fluff Fluff Luxyde Townlean.
Not much content.
I agree, Disquieted’s post was weird.
This is debatable. But go on.
This feels like a Scumlean on Quiet for not drawing any conclusions. I do like this.
MetaReads. Boo.
Luxy/Geyde Hydra (TownLean)
Luxy (1) (TownRead)
I Agree. Shurian’s first post was Garbo.
I like the thinking here. You have townread Shurian because of meta, which I don’t like, but you also used non-meta.
Townreading Merc for solve attempts. I like this.
I do agree that neither side seems townlike, nor a clear answer exists.
The post is scummy for the main reason of it being a hedgeread.
This boils down to “A Town wouldn’t normally react this way if they knew this information.” And I agree with it, but I also think that Jgoes does have valid points. I still agree with you.
It seems like they scumread both Marshal and Jgoes. I can’t exactly deny it.
NAI Openers, but Luxy gutreads Priestess as townlean. Interesting.
I do think that Disquieted is strange, and I do agree that their post is shady and didn’t go anywhere.
I don’t think that it was all shade. There was some (bad) content there.
These do look like they lack focus and content, but there is a bit of content. But I do agree that there isn’t much.
I wouldn’t deny this.
Geyde (1) (Slightest of Scumreads)
I digress. Arete seems to be contributing.
Well, it would make sense that one of them might be scum.
This will take a long time.
Simon (10) (TownLean)
I extracted that they like their role, and that they know about Post Restrictions.
Claiming a Power Role this early is… weird. I agree with you here.
Definitely town here. You’re giving content to respond to. I like it.
I think discussing mechanics here are a bit wierd, as there aren’t really anything to discuss. It’s a closed setup
I defo agree with this. Keep your votes to yourself.
What do you mean by “the numbers are open info”
Scumreasing Nerbins for pushing for a claim is reasonable.
This is just hard to read. Is this even English?
“I don’t have any reads except the reads I have”
No shit sherlock.
This boils down to “I scumlean them because they claimed to be a PR, and their 20 post restriction is weird.”
I do agree with this.
Kai (8) (ScumRead)
Post Restrictions ree
Also, you only have 50 posts? I should expect to see more content from you. 9 posts isn’t much. (Thanks for making my work easier, though)
As I’ve said before here, I don’t think vote slipping is TAI (Town AI) here, as it can be more Indicitive of personality than Alignment.
Hm. This is one of the first times I’ve heard of the reprecussions of this. I still don’t like how you, as a supposed town, would just say “Fuck it, I don’t care about my vote.” It seems more SAI than anything.
This is scum covering for why they don’t make content. I really don’t like Kai here.
Shurian (4) (TownLean)
First post of the day. I don’t like it, and I can’t tell exactly why.
Post Restrict Ree
This is just as bad as the NAI Voteslip.
This is a warning to people to not vote in the thread. I like it.
I don’t think Marshal Answered this before. Good Question.
(I couldn’t find exactly how to respond to their readlist. If pressed, I will try to)
DatBird (1) (Nullread, mainly)
I can agree with this.
Priestess/PKR Hydra (TownLean)
Priestess (8) (TownLean)
Mission Failed, we’ll get them next time.
This is really bad. There is a probable Anticlaim. You want to claim. Wtf.
At least this is more than just “There’s a Post Restriction”
This is very townlike to me. They give a reason to sus Marshal and townread Jgoes.
I like this approach. While I may not agree with the conclusion, I do agree with the logic.
I like this post, trying to stop a potential town from throwing thier shot away.
Marshal hasn’t pushed me the whole game.
PKR (4) (Nullread)
You can’t particularly confirm yourself in a Closed setup here…
My brain is in Pain.
Fuck this. I’m not touching this unless Pressured. I’ll just give you some townpoints for my own laziness.
Do you ever feel like you’re doing this for nothing?
I will be in pain by Marshal’s 74+ posts.
Marshal (74) (TownRead)
The only reason you would do this is if you feel like you would be scumread and only a soft-backed claim can help you. This is Pretty scummy IMO.
You don’t, perhaps use your limited post to make a megaread (like I’m making) and instead you do this. I really don’t like it.
The reasons aren’t awful. It seemed like you just burned through your posts willy-nilly, then you seemed to waste your final one by essentially saying “Oh fuck I’m an idiot town”
Marshal dismisses the reasons as “Bad” without explaining why.
What is a Town Reaction, per se? I mean, the scum could’ve just as easily moved on from the post.
MetaReading yourself to… prove that you’re scum?
I love this post. Scumreading PKR because of there being little Mech Confirms
He did have good points that you didn’t explain away.
This is true. Town wouldn’t double down just to be townread by you.
“I townread these two people for reasons I can’t explain”
Hard scumread on Marshal here. Marshal is lockscum. This is a scummy post. 
I like the Pressure to get more content form people.
Never.
I strongly agree with this for the reasons they listed.
Self Meta… I really don’t like it as it can be easily faked if you state that you know it.
I agree. If your role prevents your from contributing, then either you’re scum getting out, or host is bad.
You asserted that the reasons were dumb.
“I townread these two people for reasons I can’t explain”
This post is Large.
Does it say something like “TOWN MVM MLG JKN FKS DM SAD KP SCUM”?
Vulgard/PoisonedSquid Hydra (Nullread)
Vulgard (5) (Slightest of Townreads)
- Postcap
- Mainly NAI opener.
I agree with the reasoning. Marshal is trying to actively solve the game.
This is not a Hydra
Nothing Specific here…
PoisonedSquid (9) (Slight Scumlean)
I think that Jgoes is town in that interaction based on Marshal’s assertions that “these are bad reasons”
I mean, eventually they have to blow the whistle on the operation.
Mchanics talk in a closed setup is pretty bad.
The Kool Kats Klub (NullRead)
Katze (2) (NullRead)
After it was known that it was a react text, I would agree. But before, It seemed like Marshal was just being scummy/giving himself an out.
Please generate content
FireKitten (1) (NullRead)
Essentially, their only post has no content
SirDerpsALot (16) (ScumLean)
Something something PR something something
Why? Your vote is important, like your voice.
There’s this magical thing called a Scumread
SelfMetaWorstMeta (SMWM)
SMWM
Overall, no content.
Maxwell (5) (TownLean, almost TownRead)
I love this post. This is a clear Anti-Mechanic talk post, in a closed setup.
SelfMetaWorstMeta
It proves that your meta cannot be trusted.
Oh god, I’m almost done
Mercenary (22) (TownLean)
This is a more discreet way of saying “I have a PR.” But I do like it.
Jgoes’ opening were legit points against Marshal.
Jgoes had good points against Marshal that they deflected
Looming Threat
Kai is porbably scum who gave themselves an out to not produce content.
Or maybe Scum didn’t warn him for reasons.
I fear my own creation.
“You are town because you are town”
???
Overall, I like Merc’s energy here.
Jgoes/Mist1422 Hydra (TownRead)
Jgoes (4) (TownRead)
Right off the bat, they say this. Scumreading Marshal because they wasted precious posts.
Liking this post. Why would you say that you softed?
More scumreading for legit reasons
I’m really liking Jgoes here.
God damnit. I had high hopes for you.
More scumreads on Marshal.
I don’t really like this part, however. You hedge them by essentially saying “Well, they could be scum or town”
Hedging here. No Likey.
I like the reasoning. Mechanical talk is bad, but they did encourage content production.
Mist1422 (5) (Townlean)
Especially when there’s little Mech confirmation to be had.
Overall not much content
Maximus (7) (TownRead)
I think Marshal might have been able to, as scum, leave the thread. Instead, they make a Reactest.
Lots of content, not much to comment on.
Nerbins (14) (Scumread)
Why would you want to test a possible Claimvig?
Why is this? No one has claimed and only a rare mile of people here have claimed to soft.
If it’ll net you more Credibility? What? This feels like a scumslip to me.
I have completed an ISO of everyone. I hope the gods are merciful and let my efforts not go in vain.
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I have made a case earlier on Maximus. I rate them at the highest of my townreads because he is bringing in new angles of discussion and is proactive, even if people don’t notice that (I really like his push on Nerbins).
He is also D0 greenchecked by a cop, btw, as I would learn later.
all these wall posts are fucking boring
fuck the rules i make my own.
You can’t contain the G A Y
I’m not liking Marshal at all, he just feels so scummy it hurts.
You know when something’s on the tip of the tounge but you just can’t fuckin put your finger on it?
That’s how it feels reading Marshal’s ISO, it on a surface level is towny so you can’t see the scuminess but you still feel it.
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cease your wall post, break it up into readable chunks
don’t cram it all in one post
how was that a reaction test? what sort of reactions were you expecting and how could they indicate alignment?
bullshit. thats not true and you know it. and im assuming that you meant ten times per day.
no matter how bastard, as long as they’re consistent, mechanics are still usable if done right. say you get a green check. keep it in mind as evidence, but its flawed evidence, like a semi-scumslip but not someone accidentally posting to thread instead of scumchat scumslip. say your green check flips wolf. what are abilities like this game? do a few people have complex roles and most simple, does everyone have simple roles, or does almost everyone have pretty complex roles? based off this and what kinds of abilities youve seen so far, how likely do you think it is the host would put a framer in? would they be oneshots or multishots? what about the possibility of you secretly being insane? (modifier that gives false results) consider the possibilities, based on what you’ve seen so far, decide on what you believe to be the most likely possibility, and act accordingly. but keep in mind, your information is still pretty flaws. once a few flips/claims are out, enough for it to be unreasonable that all or most of them are faked, then you have more solid info and can become more sure in your info.
thats how you do mechanics properly.
except my meta is p consistent regardless of alignment, imo, but im still often scumread, so its not a golden ticket.
i like to think ive been relatively chill for the most part
that is not the attitude to have, because part of properly reading people is getting kinda invested, and that can make it easy to forget that its just a game. and shaming/punishing people can tend to make toxicity problems worse in my experience. granted, i dont know of a better way to do it, but that doesnt seem right.
dude most of my walls are written as if i posted each, just at once.
if forget if you were there for resistance, but its like that. we see who they think is scummy. this essentially forces everyone to give their biggest scumread. and a scum player is more likely to get a differing answer from the majority. theres some more complexities with wagon analysis effectively, but im bad at that (i can plan stuff that utilizes it effectively without being able to do it myself, since i know in theory how it works. im just bad at it in practice)
you misunderstand. its because its pkr and afaik he has a lil bit of a reputation for always claiming to be important. so presumably ive been made wary as a way to counter-balance because of that knowledge, but it was overcorrected to the point of me being very slightly suspicious.
one, not in the way your thinking, two, not with that attitude 
in theory, yes
you cant make me!
well yeah. i never go back and edit wall posts. as im typing this ive kinda already forgotten what exactly i was saying at the top of this. i type it as if each were its own post, just condensed.
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I already explained, i was trying to get mist to slip, asking if they talked with preistess wehn jgoes was their hydra.
thats not an explanation
what kind of reaction would give you what read.
“if mist said x, they would be scummy. if they instead y they would seem towny”