[FM] Mafia Academy 1 - Mafia Victory

I think that may be an actual ability in the game, checking if someone got mass roleblocked or something like that.
Eevee can be tricky and deliberatedly put in a PGO in the game to trick this logic, though.
So I do believe this claim is legit. This feedback made me laugh too much to be fake. It just is not AI.

Derps re-evaluation, as promised. I cut out a lot of fluff/etc., but thatā€™s NAI for him. Iā€™ll try to get to my FK/Katze one tonight but realistically tomorrow is more likely.

These two posts are Derpsā€™ opener. Iā€™m not really getting anything alignment-indicative here, itā€™s basically how half the thread opened. I double-checked Derpsā€™ scumgame to see if he tends to overstress about having a good opener, as far as I can tell no; basically what Iā€™m saying is that this opener is NAI.

(This is in response to Simon asking Derps who he voted.) I like how Derps gives a straight answer here but I donā€™t like how he shades Simon for the questioning.

This is in response to Kai saying that heā€™s going to ignore his PR. Scumreading someone for something you yourself claim to be doing is kind of :eyes: but Iā€™m pretty sure this is just a joke. Similar logic for the Jake vote.

I donā€™t really like how he hedges on Marshal and then doesnā€™t make an attempt to solve his slot.

Thinking this is basically NAI.

Unfortunately, lazy Derps tends to be town Derps for meta reasons.

Iā€™m not going to go into more detail on Derpsā€™ claim because I donā€™t want to give scum info and mechanical solving in an Eevee game is not the best strategy, but I will say that Iā€™m pretty sure what Derps is claiming here.

These two posts are in response to PKRā€™s Town Gunsmith claim. With PKR flipping scum, theyā€™re a pretty good look for Derps, especially since some people were considering keeping PKR alive on the basis of the claim; I also donā€™t think W!Derps randomly declares his scumbuddy scum without good reason. One of the things I was looking for in this Iso was progression on PKR/Priestess so I could evaluate the likelihood of this being a bus vote; this is more or less the extent of the progression, but it comes before the Luxy/Geyde post, which is a decent look here, and it shows that his vote on Priestess wasnā€™t totally random.

Failing to re-evaluate Marshalā€™s slot post-Priestessā€™s flip, on the other hand, is not a great look. This is really shading-y, and itā€™s shading-y for sketchy mechanical reasons when Derps already displayed at least some understanding of the fact that he shouldnā€™t be trying to solve this game based on mechanics.

ā€¦Okay, this is kind of a weird read, but I actually think this post is townie. For Derps to be W, either Jake would be W or Jake would be V. In the case where Jake was W, Iā€™d expect Derps in particular to mostly keep this sort of thing in Mafia chat, while in the case where Jake is V Derps probably wouldnā€™t want Alice showing up. Obviously itā€™s not a super strong read, because pinging inactives is kind of a low-effort way to get towncred, but the way he does it is slightly townie.

Shading Jake for his jailor soft.

Explaining his read on PKR. Basically the same as what he said earlier. I do think itā€™s a little weird that he didnā€™t have the same reaction to Marshal doing something similar but his reasoning basically makes sense to me in the context of how Derps tends to reason.

Overall, if I look at meta, Derps is pretty clearly town here due to how he tends to try much harder and put in much more effort as mafia. If I donā€™t look at meta, things look worse for him; I do think the Priestess read was town-indicative, and there were a couple other things I liked, but I donā€™t really like how heā€™s come up with literally no townreads all game, his Iso is basically just shading. Heā€™s still a townlean for me because Iā€™m not just going to ignore his meta, but Iā€™m not towncoring him any more.

At this point the main things I want to know to help me solve his slot (@SirDerpsAlot) are:

  • Who are your townreads at the moment? Ideally both your towncore and your lighter townreads.
  • How are you feeling about Marshal in the context of the Priestess flip? Did that flip change any of your other reads (in either direction)?
  • Who was your N1 target (just the target)? I donā€™t want you to claim your role but it could be important if you die (to be clear this one isnā€™t for solving your slot, this is for if you die and flip town)

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Also maxwell said his ability only gave him the results of all invests and if there were no invest abilities on his target it would give a random peice of feedback.

@Maxwell is this random piece of feedback true or false?
if nothing whatsoever happened, what would you receive?

If they were not investigated at all, I would receive a completely random piece of feedback
If they were investigated, I receive copies of any results investigators receive on the player

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No way to know if itā€™s random or legit

Honestly donā€™t know, I just canā€™t bring myself not do I really have the time to read 10000 word essays which is about half the thread and like all D1

can you ask eevee if it is any feedback of a class in the game or any random feedback that eevee just makes up

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wasnt here when marshal did that ig

i would guess the former but if you really need me to ask i will

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ATM Marshal is my biggest scumread, tho I donā€™t have too many reads due to content of this game

are youā€¦ are you joking?

did you read me and priestess interact once?

Or is it all ā€œmarshal no post restriction he scoomā€

ā€¦Okay, why Marshal? Both ā€˜what makes you think thatā€™ and ā€˜what do you think of the Marshal/Priestess interactions yesterday.ā€™

Also, re: your other post, do you have any townreads at all? Even weak ones.

No I just havenā€™t read any of that

arete I think it would be easier to read my slot if you read Katnze posts instead of mine

sheā€™s fairly obvious town I think

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wait are they a she

I donā€™t know their gender

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Also wait priestess hasnā€™t flipped why are they conf scum

Thatā€™s why i think we need a gender megathread or some way of identifying.

This is fake news

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