[FM] Mafia Academy 1 - Mafia Victory

[Firekitten]

Eevee

[katze]

We are a Pokemon.

I didn’t want to claim, but since you guys are buying up this fake redcheck ask me anything.

[Firekitten]

Yeah this shouldn’t have been this big of a problem, but it is because Astand decided to ruin everything that’s been happening today.

The fact is I’m not scum, and Astand is going to reveal this later. But it will be too late by the time they reveal it, because everyone will be too confirmation biased by thinking it was a red check so when they re-read what we said here they will think it was scum reacting to a check.

I already got close to snapping a lot of times this game, and if I have to interact or even talk to marshal anymore this game I’m going to get even more upset. After this post I’m just leaving the thread, because there’s no point in trying to change your mind at the expense at me snapping at someone in this game. You got our claim, you got all of our thoughts before this happened at the end of the day it’s pretty much satand’s fault if we get lynched here, as we wouldn’t have reacted this way if Astand didn’t take claim a check.

[Marshal]

@astand if this is a reactiontest please reveal.

BUt i don’t think he mass pingus and cop covers for a reactiontest.

[Marshal]

Firekatze please apologize to jgoes for me in deadchat.

[katze]

@astand

I hardclaim cop with a condition (it’s not really relevant)

@astand

with a condition

When we flip town, this’ll be their alibi

@astand If you’re a pokemon trainer speak now

[Arete]

FK spew

@firekitten

One of the things that’s been bothering me this game is how Marshal is playing this game. He’s not thinking through his points rationally, there’s a lot of flaw with his logic. If you compare to this to other people with post restrictions, they have more content in their posts and less flaws then him, even though they have flaws in their posts.

@firekitten

I honestly think you are scum

@firekitten

Marshal is doing a SCUM reaction test to get me to say yes so he can say only scum wants full claims from people and then pushing me

I don’t actually think I need to quote anything else from his engagement with Marshal’s slot, if there was any doubt after Priestess’s flip it should be gone now. The fact that two Mafia were trying to discredit his early reads probably point to them being correct about one of his early reads.

@firekitten

Oh so you are also scum hi

Derps is town

@firekitten

@nerbins I was wondering if you had information if there was a neutral killer because I don’t get how you would get to this conclusion if you didn’t.

Pings Nerbins here and a couple other places, on second thought I’m too lazy to look at every single question FK asked of another player unless I have reason to think it’s AI one way or the other.

@firekitten

@astand we need you to rescind your N0 cop claim ASAP if it’s fake because roles don’t flip, if maxi is scum and you die everyone will think he’s confirmed and if he’s scum then he wins the game.

Maxi is probably town from this, it feels to me like he’s looking for a reason to be able to push Maxi as if Maxi were his scumbuddy he’d be fine to let him be cop-cleared.

@firekitten

@JakeTheWolfie wdym by nerbins having more compelling evidence going for them? No one really even mentioned lynching Nerbins yesterday that I remember.
@maxwell why did you vote nerbins

This is not a great look for Nerbins.

@firekitten

The first thing I wanted to mention as soon as I broke out of my post restriction is this, I think it’s completely wrong you definitely misclesred people for clearing too many people.

{Luxy/Geyde} town, Merc town, Astand still probably town, Marshal town with terrible logic, Simon and Derps likely town from VCA + general attitude, {Jake/Alice} and Maxi likely scum, more confident on {Jake/Alice} than Maxi
This is the post Litten was complaining about, thinking there’s at most one scum in my town list and possibly that it’s pure, as otherwise Litten wouldn’t have needed to cast doubt upon it.

@firekitten

@SirDerpsAlot why won’t you forgot to submit your actions this game, is it because you have mafia members who are going to remind you to?

@firekitten

These post and the previous one felt very sudden, and it felt out of place. I’m going to read what happened before he said this more closely because when I first saw this I thought distancing

These are both in reply to Derps

Derps is super town this game

@firekitten

Last time I played with scum datbird he said I was a town read early in the game despite knowing I was hard to read

Shading on Datbird

@firekitten

@DatBird question, would you describe your flavor as “honorable” or anything about your class as it? Pretty important.

Rolecop-y thing on Datbird, I think at this point it’s likely that Dat is town both from the shading and the softed rolecop-y thing

@firekitten

Maybe you shouldn’t color people who haven’t flipped scum red because that defeats the purpose of VCA

In red: {PKR/Priestess}, Nerbins, {Arete/Disquieted}, Jake, Maxwell, Merc, {FK/Katze}, Datbird
Thinking that some number of the red people are scum with FK/Katze.

@firekitten

Katnze you know what that means, we are having bird for lunch

Datbird very likely town, I doubt FK busses Dat after a D1 scum lynch.

@firekitten

Most people I think don’t know what to think of kai this game, because it feels like they are trolling this game. However I think they are being abrasive on purpose in an effort to gather reactions from people in order to read them.

Another thing that makes me think they are town is how they thought of Marshal/Priestess.

I might end up needing to re-evaluate my Kai read, going to be honest. Though see below with respect to Katze.

@firekitten

Derp just earned themselves a trip to the guillotine today

Derps is t o w n

@firekitten

Your Iso took a lot of work

but just is the wrong places

that’s pretty much what I felt

Light shading on Jake

@firekitten

After a little reading of what was happening when they voted, I think the wagon is pure

FK starts out with ‘let’s find the bus votes,’ does his asking-for-times thing, and concludes the wagon is pure. From this I think it’s very likely that the wagon is impure. {Luxy/Geyde} is super unlikely to be a bus, Derps is spewed town by FK, Simon feels very town for reasons I’ve explained although his ignoring the redcheck because ‘reads > mechanics’ is kind of weird, Marshal is spewed clear by Priestess + FK, and I know I wasn’t bussing, so that leaves Nerbins as a very likely bus vote. Would also explain why Nerbins tries to shift the lynch to Maxi (who FK was trying to un-clear earlier).

I actually think Simon is probably town from the questioning of the redcheck because responding to a redcheck on your scumbud with ‘ACTUALLY reads > mechanics’ is just so terrible that I can’t see scum doing it.

Katze spew

@katze

Jokes aside, this is an incredibly indepth post. I don’t think there’s much I can say about it that isn’t obvious - well done.

This is in response to Luxy

@katze

I feel like you disregarded the end of his only post, to be fair.

This is in response to Jake’s post. I feel like both heads of the hydra have been lightly shading Jake, while still interacting with him, so I think Jake is slightly more town because of it.

@katze

In my eyes, there’s a high chance that the Marshal vs PKRiestess posting earlier is TvS - and I’m leaning more towards Priestess here.

Though this post proves that he’s not above shading his scumbuds.

@katze

Luxy/Geyde: Most likely town, I don’t think a scum would put this much effort without pushing on people harder.

With Luxy/Geyde being nearly lockclear at this point this feels like probably TMI.

@katze

Kai: Scumlean or very bored town. Will go into this in a bit.

@katze

As for not voting Kai: I knew he wouldn’t get lynched, and upon further discretion my read on him turned less scummy and more null because I really don’t know how to read a fluffposter.

Weird read, but I think Kai is likely town from how the two heads had nearly opposite opinions on him. I think they would have discussed what attitudes they were going to have about their scumbuddies, so the fact that they have different opinions on Kai points to him being town.

@katze

So Maxi being a locktown to so many people baffles me a bit.

More shading on Maxi, this feels to me like ‘why can’t we mislynch Maxi ’

@katze

I already explained this earlier, and since you clearly looked at my ISO I really doubt you missed it .

Shading Luxy/Geyde. What was even the point of this, we were never going to be persuaded that they were bussing.

tl;dr: Maxi town, Nerbins probably scum, Derps town, Datbird and Jake both >rand town

[Marshal]

you forgot marshal town.

you should probably leave the marshal sux gang before it incriminates you too.

[Marshal]

Also i think Aretted is scum with Fkatze as scum because Fk wanted to discredit all of my pushes on that slot. So we have some scum motivation there.

[katze]

So how will your reads change when we flip green?

It’s pretty silly to not consider the possibility.

[Marshal]

Also the eod vote on aretted by fkatze doesn’t seem pure as priestess was clearly the lynch and that vote could be some easy distancing.

However i’m gonna do a game re-eval at night from a more unbiased standpoint(although my biased one is also doing pretty well)

[Arete]

I stand by ‘Marshal’s logic this game has been bad’ and will continue to stand by that until your logic stops being bad, I didn’t really feel the need to include ‘Marshal town’ in my summary any more than I’d need to put ‘Luxy/Geyde town’ because it was already obvious.

@Marshal

Also i think Aretted is scum with Fkatze as scum because Fk wanted to discredit all of my pushes on that slot. So we have some scum motivation there.

What do you make of Katze’s repeated shading on my slot + voting me at EoD yesterday?

[Marshal]

@Arete

What do you make of Katze’s repeated shading on my slot + voting me at EoD yesterday?

Distancing.

@Arete

I didn’t really feel the need to include ‘Marshal town’ in my summary any more than I’d need to put ‘Luxy/Geyde town’ because it was already obvious.

also your hydra really doesn’t seem to think so and is the founder of the marshal sux gang and has shaded me a few times today

[Marshal]

@katze

Guys, play calm and slowly. Read the rules. Twice. Thrice. Then think. And then type. Thank you

Come on, I don’t want to beat a dead horse but you’re really not looking good here Priestess…

PKRs posts lean more towards a TR in my eyes, but… you’re really not backing that up.

I feel like you’re just… constantly digging your hole deeper. I almost think you’re acting too wolfy to be a wolf. But you’re reacting pretty poorly to Luxy/Geydes pressure.

Luxy:

Priestess’ slot is scum: kill it with fire.

How do you feel about PKRs claim?

Its in the the wall

Huh, I must have accidentally skipped that paragraph. Too many wallposts for me to read at almost 1AM, lmao

Probably my last post until EoD, submitting my vote now.

This post feels like it’s pointing towards a preistess vote, but then the vote is aretted.

hmmmm

[Marshal]

can you explain the vote please katze?

[Arete]

…no, I think you’re town here (as I said when I looked at Priestess’s spew), I just think you’re town with bad logic. Did you actually bother to read any of my analysis of Priestess’s spew?

[katze]

You won’t even consider the possibility that my alignment isn’t red?

That’s pretty amusing.

@Marshal

This post feels like it’s pointing towards a preistess vote, but then the vote is aretted.

hmmmm

@Marshal

can you explain the vote please katze?

How many times do I have to explain this? Have you even read my posts?

[Marshal]

explain it again.

[Arete]

@Marshal

If Katze was going to distancevote a scummate, then why would he not distancevote the scummate who was actually getting lynched? Your argument here doesn’t actually make sense.

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Katze, do you mind giving us a full readlist right now (since FK refuses to)? If you’re actually town, it can only help.

[katze]

@katze

As for why I voted them over PKRiestess:

katze:

I feel like you’re just… constantly digging your hole deeper. I almost think you’re acting too wolfy to be a wolf.

It was impulsive. I was torn between voting PKRiestess and Arettled, and at 1AM my brain refused to believe that Priestess’ defense could be that poor. In hindsight, I was wrong.

As for not voting Kai: I knew he wouldn’t get lynched, and upon further discretion my read on him turned less scummy and more null because I really don’t know how to read a fluffposter.

Since Marshal is busy sheeping with a fake cop instead of formulating his own opinions, here you go.

@Arete

Katze, do you mind giving us a full readlist right now (since FK refuses to)? If you’re actually town, it can only help.

I’ll write one up before EoD.