SirDerps I think might be a slight village lean for now, as he doesn’t seem like he’s pressured to produce anything, and that’s similar to how I felt from him in my last game with him (on MU).
From what I skimmed from the Cult Clash game back then, I think I got somewhat an impression that a much greater proportion of his posts seem to be attempts to ask questions (usually pointless) to seem involved. Here I feel a litlle more honest vibes from him.
I think I remebmer someone did point out something similar though, but whatever.
Incorrect. I really did soft, just in a very obscure way that no one will pick up on until i reveal it(and my soft actually worked more than i originally planned)
I already explained that i honestly kinda semi-forced the townreads, but i did get a decent scumread out of it as i did not liike it.
His push on me… was because of the reactiontest. This isn’t “omgus”, i didn’t push because he was pushing on me, i pushed because the reaction was bad. This is blatantly false.
No the reactiontest was(while not done well) to hunt and find town more than scum, but i ended up getting scumreads more from it then townreads
Ah yes, shading based off of mechanics. I actually hadn’t thought of that before(the idea of ignoring PR to powerwolf) But you seem to have(Yes, this is shade)
I softed it and intended it as a reactiontest. My intention wasn’t to shade anyone who “calls me out”, it was to townread people who had moved on from it and didn’t discuss it too much. It would have been scummier FMPOV if someone was like “wow, that is bad! Does anyone else have something like this? What are the punismnets? LETS FOCUS ON THIS!”
You are calling me a liar for… saying i’m trying to improve?. Or that i don’t have a postcap. One is a NAI reason, and one is lulmechanics.
This isnt… a meta read on derps. this is me pointing out why clearing based on reactiontests(A reson, for the record, that people were clearing me) is flawed and can be done by scum. YOu are lying, this was not a metaread on derps and i have stated as such.
This was poor phrasing. I should have said “I have trouble reading you based off of meta as i don’t klnow yours that well.”
Fluff and lulposts i can get. However, fluffposting is not really AI and i have tried to keep it to a minimum.
A compilation of lies or not full truths
I did. And when i do show it you will be a proven liar
This sin’t OMGUS. As i am not pushing him because he is pushing me, as the reasons i pushed him for were because of a reactiontest, unrelated to the fact that he was shading meeee.
Ah yes, if only you read the post you just quoted.
^literally what i said in the qoted post
Priestess lied here.
This wasn’t a metaread on derps, this was me quoting a moment from a game that disproves an argument for townreading me.
I haven’t done antitown behaviour. Do you even know what this means?
Preitsess’s ISO of me is full of lies. Everybody, please fucking read this. Presitess has lied on multiple occasions. This is hyperscummy.
I think the difference between Disquieted and FK/katze is that I don’t get the impression FK/katze have been posting in bad faith, whereas it’s the opposite for Disquieted. It probably has to do with their respective tones. It’s not the greatest reason to say ‘well they can’t be scum together’ or anything like that, but I do have that feeling that makes me think FK’s slot is townier.
One thing I really want FK/katze to do is to start engaging with other players in the thread, because they haven’t done that at all. It’s understandably much more difficult to achieve with a post restriction, but there should still be something; bouncing ideas off of one another, trying to solve the game, etc. Maybe they have not gotten quite into it yet. Or maybe they are just evil.
I find it hard to tell as of right now, but in the case of FK/Katze, I’m willing to give them time. Disquieted, however, has already passed my scum threshold and I don’t think I’m confbiasing myself here. I have waited patiently with the intent to reevaluate if necessary. Nothing that slot has posted has made me want to change my read.
I have read Nerbins ISO, and it looks like a dumpster fire to me. There is no thought made altogether, and I think in a bad way.
He still tries to be “useful” while pointing out meaningless stuff like the fact FK 0 posted and pinging him. And like appearing out of nowhere to comment on PKR claiming, and then dissapearing back into the void. The excuse to not make reads D1 makes no sense to me as I’ve seen town Nerbins do exactly that, and a lot, in a Clown Fiesta game.
Nerbins can probably go into a scum pile, perhaps even more than others, actually, since I’m really finding trouble finding anything good there.
Marshal you are myself this game. I see you in me and that’s been scaring me all game. The reason I find that scary is because it gave me a different perspective on this game that I can’t see when I have a lot of posts.
You have unlimited posts this game, and with that you are one of the most powerful people in this game. I would know, as the most powerful thing I know as scum is the power of out posting people and using your unlimited posts in a way to manipulate others.
You have been doing both of those things, and I have tried to write it off because you aren’t me, but the comparisons between you and me when I have unlimited posts felt uncanny as heck.
I honestly think you are scum, and the way you have been controlling the thread is EXACTLY how I do as scum. I said when I started first posting in my PM with Katze that I do not like how Marshal has thread control. I said that I fear them the most if they are scum, because the things that I have read showed me that you have a lot of control with unlimited posts and that even if I am right and you were scum, you would attack me right away saying I’m scum and I wouldn’t be able to argue for long, because I only have ten posts a day. I said that I was going to hold off that read for a little bit, and wait until I have more things on him because if I even try saying I scumread him he will outpost me like you are doing to the other people calling you scum.
Well now I’m fed up with waiting and trying to teach Katze how to read people in the mean time.
One of the first things that reminds me of how I play this game as scum is some of the stuff you said earlier game. You know mechanics can’t be trusted at all, however you insist you can be mechanically confirmed. I only do this when when I’m getting attacked and I don’t think I can convince them otherwise, however the fact that you KNOWINGLY know mechanics can’t confirm anyone yet insist you can be mechanically confirmed is scummy to me.
Another one of the things that have been bothering me is your arguments. Your arguments seem okay on first glance, however when you think about it you ask yourself how the HELL did they come to that conclusion. I do this a lot as scum, and it’s a way to read me.
When I first read this post I thought it was fine, however the more I thought about it the more that I thought how the hell did he come to this conclusion.
This is what’s been bothering me this game, convince me that I’m wrong.
The problem with their reads isn’t that I disagree with them, the problem is that the logic behind them makes no sense. Like, half their basis for scumreading Priestess/PKR is that they (Priestess/PKR) disagree with each other about their reads, and that therefore they must be scumbuddies who discussed fake reads in scumchat, forgot they were supposed to be a hydra, and posted different reads, because all hydras would definitely discuss their reads with each other and come to consensus before posting (even though every or almost every hydra this match has said they haven’t been doing that). It’s not a reason for scumreading them that actually makes sense.
Even ignoring the question of whether your read on Jgoes is OMGUS, the fact remains that you’ve been pushing and scumreading exactly the people who scumread you, and in at least one case your justification was that they scumread you and townread Jgoes.
Lies is a really extreme term for most of these, bordering on outright misrepresentation. A sample:
If you were softing in your early posts it was really non-obvious. If someone re-reads a post with softs so soft they’re practically inaudible and doesn’t see the softs, and says as much, that’s not a lie, that’s an accurate evaluation of those posts from their perspective.
Quoting the post that Priestess quoted in her OMGUS read:
Saying this is OMGUS is not a lie, since, uh, it’s OMGUS, even if you had secret reactiontest reasons for it.
These two points are the only ones that are remotely reasonable to call lies in my opinion.
^The quote, for reference. She makes it very clear what she’s qualifying as anti-town behavior.
Basically, what I’m seeing here is Marshal attacking Priestess for “lying” when the vast majority of supposed lies are things like ‘missing that he softed, when literally no one can catch the soft’ or ‘expressing the opinion that he’s been anti-town.’ I don’t see his exaggeration of how serious what she did here to be remotely town-motivated – like, he calls her a “proven liar” for missing a soft, which really only makes sense motivation-wise if he’s trying to discredit Priestess and make it sound reasonable.
Too many people are claiming they can be mechanically confirmed. Press X to doubt.
Anyway guys it would be really great if we stopped discussing mechanics and did things on reads.
No you cannot he sort of confirmed, stop fucking lying. You know that you can’t be mechanically confirmed this game, yet you insist that you can be. I’m going to call out bullshit when I see bullshit, and I think you are intentionally lying here.
You said so yourself that no one can be mechanically confirmed.
Astand the reason I mentioned that was because I scumread him however I didn’t want to say he was scum, I wanted to point it out and see what he would do in response to that. He didn’t do anything of note.
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