I was actually planning on drawing a killing action on one of the players in my PoE. The self-protection ability was a bluff.
Like, I don’t get why people think it’s scummy to lie about your night actions on this site.
Wolves will immediately trust anything a village says in regards to mechanics, so just by telegraphing fake information like this you can easily outplay them.
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Nope, was going to shoot someone. The talk about self-protection was enough to dissuade wolves from attacking me.
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Remind to self to check the actual content of the reads instead of only if someone made reads
But I have found a wolf I’m proud 
Because a large proportion of people here came from ToL, and in ToL lying and being caught doing so is nearly always a sign of evilness.
also because I was a wolf looking for any excuse I could find to push your slot
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Rule of thumb for village walls vs. wolf walls can easily by summarized in three sentences.
A) Is the player arriving at a strong conclusion rather than hedging or not making any conclusions?
Overall player X’s questions have no follow up and don’t help the gamestate whatsoever so I’d say they are pretty wolfy.
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On one hand player X’s ISO is just full of nonsensical questions but they also did it in game Y where they were town so idk.
The second one is wolfy as the poster doesn’t really get to any conclusions in regards to player X’s alignment. They just dance around the question non-stop despite claiming to having read and analyzed their ISO.
B) Does the entire ISO flow normally and naturally rather than seem forced and agenda-driven?
I don’t think player X’s townread on player Y came naturally being that he’s way too confident of it while also never interacting with player Y once in the match.
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Player X is obviously trying to pocket player Y for townreading them. Take a look at how they immediately went to jump towards player Y’s defense right when they were being scumread.
Point is, the second one is wolfy as it begins with a conclusion and then tries to back it up without taking into consideration player X’s thought processes and why the townread on player Y came into play. This is the very definition of forcing an agenda. Villagers solve games and wolves force agendas.
C) Does the ISO hit logical points or does it rely too much on assumption or surmission?
Player X has been hedging a lot on player Z’s alignment despite focusing them for much of the match, I’d imagine were they town that they would be making more solid conclusions.
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Despite me never interacting with player X or player Z and neither flipping it’s pretty obvious that they are W/W together from how hard they’ve been townreading each other.
The second one is wolfy as it assumes way too much regarding alignments. I use pre-flips a lot in order to see if a potential wolfteam fits or not, but if a player is using way too much assumption on others’ alignments without making any stand-alone reads, then yep, they’re a wolf.
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How do you differentiate village uncertainty from wolf uncertainty? I know when I’m a villager I’m often really unsure about some of my reads, but there’s always a part of me that’s worried that if I say that people will assume I’m a wolf (yes, I’m aware that that’s not the mindset I should have as a villager).
Uncertain villagers will go more in-depth on why they think a player is a toss-up and then will do one of two things.
A) Further interact with the player to get a better read on their alignment.
B) Leave the player alone and then go to analyze another one.
See in LotR how I was referring towards Squid where I was pointing out that her logic was odd but her emotion was pretty villagery which is why my read on her was weak. Then I was trying to interact with her more and when she wasn’t on I was trying to solve other slots.
Sulit here was just talking about PKR and she wasn’t doing much in solving other slots nor talking with him.
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tbh, village uncertainty is honest
It doesn’t try to make declarations on alignments when it doesn’t know for sure
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tfw people dont know where to place you since you dont give reads, but you cant give reads because you dont have any, but when you agree on someone’s point and help push the person they find you scumm
Sulit was basically going to be the day’s lynch. There was no need to pile more votes on her and I thought this looked like a towncred grab attempt.
Do you have any advice on forming towncores without, like, sticking a bunch of wolves in them/not doing that but being convinced you did and abandoning them/etc.?
(let me know if I’m bothering you with all these questions)
Be confident but always be re-evaluating your reads. Don’t just lock a player in as town and ignore them for the rest of the game. Like, in the event you misread a player earlier on they’ll probably make a noticeable poor move during the match and then you can remove them from the core.
See how I treated Dat in LotR.
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