Well I am about to do a 6 hour shift, so have fun scrolling through 780 posts in that time, because I ain’t giving ya the answer.
I assumed it was a permanent change? but maybe we should double check with Eevee.
yep but this is typical Gorta lol, he does that all the time.
I will always wallpost : P
and nah, that first wallpost was literally just for the purposes of catching up. it wasn’t an analysis post and I’m aware of that lol.
^^^ this
and since we have new players (LiLi and Rome) we just need to straight-out read and not rely too heavily on meta.
I think Marl was saying he thought I’m town, not scum lol
this is what I remembered from last time lol, and also why I said “maybe Zone will yell at you for it” but I guess he also said he didn’t care as long as it’s just a preliminary vote this time.
Marl’s response here is giving me slight town vibes. I’m not sure who’s in his PoE at the moment but he didn’t just jump to vote someone immediately in an effort to self-pres, although it’s not like there are so many votes on him at the moment that he’d be forced to anyway.
YBW is kind of sitting at a null for me right now. I don’t like reading people off their activity since real life can get in the way of FM, but since there’s very little effort that’s come from his slot today, I can’t really get a read on it from anything else. Other than suggesting to rand his vote, that is, but he did that earlier before our roles settled, so it’s probably also NAI.
For not paying attention to the game, you do seem to have jumped to a few conclusions quickly. You said earlier that LiLi derpcleared herself but didn’t want to elaborate, though? Gonna keep that in mind, but if it’s highly relevant information then I think it would be to both your benefit and ours that you explain the derpclear.
I don’t think you should just read me solely off the basis of whether I wallpost or not, honestly. I’m pretty sure I’ve established that I’m a regular wallposter and would do it as any alignment, and as Marl said, there wasn’t really much in that wallpost. I was just catching up on the thread and trying to keep my responses short because people were continuing to post while I was replying lol.
Oh, I can’t fault you for that since I also signed up for this game mostly for the quantum mechanics involved 
I guess a lot of us did.
How exactly did you calculate that, though?
Even if you’re mathematically cleared at this point, I don’t think you’re correctly mathematically locking Rome as scum. I think your math is a little flawed in terms of understanding how the worlds were collapsing before, but read Rome all you want today and if you still think he’s a wolf, at least it’s a read.
Yeah, Marl said this a bunch of times and even I commented on it (I said that Marl might not actually be lying about his town chances since his attack on Rome clearly didn’t go through). Meaning that either Marl and Rome are w/w, or Marl is just town.
Ah, so you two submitted your night actions really early in the night, then. As much as it feels like a weird clear, I don’t think wolves would ever think of claiming that so I see your point.
I “wasted” recapping D4 because a lot of people were apparently not paying attention at all to what Derps said, and I thought it was worth bringing it up for full context. I didn’t say in the post that I wanted to check Voyeur claims, either - I was literally just typing out my thought processes as I usually do. The thing is that I saved the post where Derps compiled the cop/e vig claims but he didn’t write out the voyeur claims as he was counting them so I just got lazy and didn’t try to count them for myself.
I didn’t drop the “I want people to be more active” request, though. Since this is just mountainous, there needs to be stuff to read people off, and since the thread seemed dead I just afk’d for a thesis meeting and then cleaned my room because there was no further activity before I went to sleep. But there are now posts to catch up on, so there is something for me to work with.
I don’t even remember Gorta claiming a kill on Simon tbh, I might’ve missed that. But yeah, I thought the goal of attacking Simon was literally to reduce his mafia odds. Because he attacked me N1, for my own sake I wanted to reduce the chances that I’d be dead N1 lol.
True, but isn’t it more productive to just identify any mafia than specifically the attacking mafia? I get that if you identify the attacking mafia, you have a lockwolf, but there are two other wolves who you can’t identify based on their attacks.
Speaking of attacks, I’ve been wondering for a while - is the mafia kill priority number assigned secretly to each player and stays the same throughout the whole game, or do the priority numbers get shuffled every night? Because I feel like it would be way too obvious if we could just link all three kills to a single player, unless that’s how it was intended. Could there be a different killing mafia every night?
lol
yours would only be the third vote on him
I guess filler posts are an effective way to deter people from reading Shurian’s ISO 
meh.
I see your point, but I also don’t necessarily think it’s a good reason to vote them out. Why do you think Shurian was the attacking mafia, or why do you think Shuri is mafia at all? I thought at first that they were lying about their stats D4, but it turned out that I misread their claim, so I really have no idea at this point. Do you think they were being dodgy?
Eh, Marl was right when he said earlier that if he and Rome are both wolves, the attack also wouldn’t go through. So it’s not exactly a clear except that he isn’t the attacking mafia.
This is exactly why I said I wanted to see more activity from everyone lol, considering this site is known for town yeeting itself into a loss, and I don’t want to lose this just because people are inactive and possibly LHFs because of that.
This reaction from LiLi is worth noting. She look like she’s expressing some degree of surprise that YBW found what looks like a decent reason to townclear her, like she didn’t say that with the expectation of being cleared for it. I guess it goes hand-in-hand with what YBW pointed out, so she seems pretty towny for this.
idk, that’s what I was also trying to figure out, unless we were literally all assigned permanent priority numbers from 1 to 17 at the beginning of the game and all kills were decided based on that? I was mostly operating under the assumption that the priorities were re-randed every night, though, so I thought the kills that didn’t go through were less of a scumtell just because the killer might fail one night and succeed the next.
I don’t remember who PKR killed. I didn’t see him claim his kill target N1 and in fact I didn’t log any of his actions N1 so maybe he tree’d?
Well, if you don’t have a reason to vote Marl, then simply don’t vote him unless you change your mind and see something that stands out to you as wolfy. We don’t need to rush votes here and really shouldn’t.
…whoops, I take back what I said above in response to Zone. I guess I did say I was going to look for the PR thingies, but I ended up eating dinner during a thesis meeting lmao. Lame excuse, but we were preparing a project presentation so that took priority.
anything in particular stand out to you?
that is
an actual good night’s sleep lol
keep in mind that there could have been three attackers on you but only two had chances of being the attacking mafia and the third one just vanished (like how Marl claimed he attacked Rome but Rome ended up 0% dead). So from this you could clear at least one of the people who attacked you as “not attacking mafia”, although they could still be a lower priority mafia or also just town.
Lol right
yes exactly, and that’s why I said you can’t just say your death percentage after N2 didn’t add up. Same logic applies.
yeah, 3 live wolves + PKR lol
imagine asking to be death tunnelled lmao
bruh mood
oh lol, now there’s three of you. we could just wait to see how many people claim this but I guess by now the wolves have picked up on it as a valid strategy so it probably capped at maximum derpclears after YBW cleared LiLi. That tiny bit of paranoia I have is screaming at me not to believe the derpclear, but it feels more and more convincing when I think about it.
ah, this is good information.
there is a way you could be w/w with Marl still, but very specifically if the attacking mafia is whoever the third wolf is, and neither of you two in that case. at any rate you’re both cleared from being attacking mafia, assuming you’re both telling the truth.
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eww I should have spoilered that post, just like the last one, but I was slightly worried people would completely miss it if I did (because that happened the last time I tried to spoiler a bunch of lengthy wallposts).
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If Rome flipping mafia more or less clears me as town i wanna yote him so i can IC it up
Took me a million years to find this post. I can see the point after a little.
I’m swapping between Scum Chop and Town Chop every 10 posts I see. I’m now going to put Choppy as scum.
There is no basis for his pushes, besides superimposing his own world view onto someone’s worldview. It’s jarring and intrusive, supposedly to weed out scum.
I personally hated Choppy’s opening. Full of AtE that brought nothing to the table besides the Marl and Wind killing Simon thing. This controls the thread. He didn’t consider that someone may have lied about not killing Simon on D3 or so, and only considers lies when he has a world he wants to believe in (me apparently attacking chopchop n2 somehow makes math inconsistent in his world yea?).
Please don’t, I can’t either
@Rome What do you think ChopChop is? Town or Mafia?
I found Wind’s 5451 extremely heartening DX only the part on Chop tho.
Chop is so into their worldview they are (bleep)ing themselves
Herp Lili now best VT… I really doubt this can come from a mafia… Even if Lili was added to mafia chat sometime during night, twisting that particular narrative is almost impossible imo.
@an_gorta_pratai
Try to catch up as fast as you can or the thread will look to get you, I’m feeling it.
YBW is just a chunk of NAI.
Back at Post 5539 hold on.
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Good hooman.
(Deathtunnel me once more and we’ll have a meme - Town Wind deathtunnels Town Shurian everytime they see each other)
YBW has cleared Lili xD
Now hooman @WindwardAway tell me what are your reads in a nifty little readlist from town to scum in order. Excluding me of course
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I’m personally paranoid of Zone/Chop as a potential scumteam but I’m pretty sure people have a easier time reading them than I do xD
(Especially when Zone’s actions have been NAI so far).
I’m only thinking Rome as a prime target because somehow their 100% survivability backfires on them. I can see scum trying to push on Rome for that, but they just happen to have a very big chance of not being town because no one touched Rome as scum (making more scumteams with them possible).
Hmm
BUT NOTHING HAPPENS IF WE DONT DO SOMETHING AMIRITE
Off the top of my head I actually think Marl and ChopChop might both be town, LiLi is doing a damn good job of making me townread her despite my paranoia that it’s an act, and YBW is not doing much at all to convince me he’s town except for his derp clear on LiLi (but he could also derpclear her if he’s scum so eh).
Ill give you a more detailed synopsis when calculus lecture is over lol.trying to take notes and read thread at the same time is getting a bit complicated lol
I’m actually waiting for more of him, gorta.
Lili has wanted to sheep so
I’m going to hardclear Lili, YBW has hardcleared Lili, so yea
Go and study. Don’t neglect them. We still have 24 hours? I dunno how long a day phase is but my updated rolecard from eevee was 23 hours ago so im assuming 48 hours XD
This thread is no less of a disaster than it previously was before we knew our alignments ._.
As much as I hate to admit it because of previous encounters with LiLi, they’re probably town.
The fact I think this annoys me e-e