[FM] Quantum Mafia - Game Thread - Mafia Victory

Seth asked zone- zone asked me. Seth has been jumpy about his target.

Also can I just say
I think YBW is town

It’s not just bc I feel like I’m pocketed or whatever lol

But also iirc, wasn’t YBW like, the first one to claim 100% town D4? (If I got this wrong, ignore my entire post please)
I think that’s kinda credible bc like, unless they were an 100% mafia, how would they know 100% town was possible if they weren’t 100% town themselves?

Isn’t it kind of risky to start claiming 100% something when you’re not, and be an outlier if everyone else wasn’t yet at 100% anything?

Even Wazza didn’t claim 100% until rather late, so if we have that as a comparison, YBW claiming 100% town would seem really strange to the rest of us if there weren’t a lot of other 100% claims that day (and how would he know there would be)

Bc like, he wasn’t a frontrunner in terms of town percentage right? So it’d be kind of unexpected if he suddenly went to 100% town normally if we just look at percentages

So he must have some knowledge (cough 100% town status cough) backing up his claim as 100% town!

That’s why I think he’s probably 100% town

What do you guys think?

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Sorry that turned into a long post LOL

More accurately, I didn’t bother to backread after getting a satisfactory answer

All I remember was that post where he was like ‘I’ll just vote first’

So I guess now it’s just he gave you two options, you wanted Marlu, he voted Marlu since you weren’t voting him? Or something?

Though why does that even matter? The question was why did Zone vote Marlu, not why did Rome choose Marlu >.>

Geez, I even thought I had made some huge memory error

Yea the first to claim 100% town (pr or not) will get the strongest TR from me
I only saw Jane iirc

I backread my own posts and
Honestly I get it if you don’t want to ISO me, it’s a hell out there…

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if i’m right on rome i also realized a second scum

but i dont want to say yet for reasons™

they might spew the third

I already commented on this too, that Rome and Marl could still be w/w if neither of them is the attacking mafia. So this is kind of a faulty clear on both of them, but on the other hand I can see town trying to clear themselves this way, so I’m gonna say this is mostly NAI.

The last sentence, though, I find less convincing. It kind of invalidates the point of claiming that both Marl and Rome would be vanilla imo, unless I’m reading this wrong.

…actually that was the last thing I wanted to comment on from Rome. His ISO is kind of meh, and I think I might scumlean him tbh, but I’m not hard scumreading him yet.

Attacking scum attacking this attacking that

Me:
By the power of mechanics, since world collapsed to 1 (if not we wouldnt have deaths imploding onto themselves), we will now see whether ppl have truthtelled or not

I mean he could have lied about killing you.
I don’t know.

Also the only mafia that flipped is PKR.
And we both attacked each other.
Me attacking them N1, them attacking me N2.

If Wind/Marl/Chop claimed to attack Simon N2, then why wouldnt people lie about not attacking Simon to give their scum chances a better choice?

I like to think I know what Marl’s on

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Mindmeld may not be the same so Imma see where he’s going

You didn’t see mine.
That I posted multiple times?

I know you did

Wait was it you that I made a mental note of?
Memory is fuzzy

Mind explaining why you voted me Shurian?

Because everything about you is scummy
I daresay half the thread would want to jump on you ngl

ah, gotcha. yeah, I don’t feel like Jane had much thread presence here, either, and considering they kept trying to vote themselves it was kind of funny but NAI. In general Jane is a strong town player from what I’ve seen; I’ve never seen them in a wolf game before so I don’t really know what that would look like, but as town in the latest game I played with them they did very well in identifying the scum. As Shurian said in response, Jane claimed 100% town at some point, so I’m guessing that also factored into the kill.

Right now I’m leaning mostly toward YBW. Now that I’m catching up on the thread I feel like your question on the Jane kill is genuine. You could’ve just not questioned it if you were scum. I still had left your ISO open to the point where I left off when I came back from lecture, so my apologies that I didn’t see the rest of your replies until now.

This is always a problem lol, I don’t think the 100% town claims hold much water although maybe it gives the scumteam a preference as to whom to kill first.

Ok, I understand what you’re saying here, and I guess Zone would be leading the town from YBW’s perspective in that case (as he said he was sheeping Zone). I’m just wondering if YBW is choosing to sheep a strong leader for towncred, though. I have really mixed feelings on his slot in particular, and although I think he was probably right in derpclearing LiLi, I’m conflicted on whether or not I can also count it as a clear for him or if he’s just a wolf jumping at easy clears.

What are your current thoughts on Kyo and Gorta? I’m honestly never sure how to approach reading Kyo, although I do believe he was telling the truth about his stats before today, other than the lie he got caught in. Gorta on the other hand just said he’d make reads and then vanished to eat dinner and never came back with a readlist, but it’s not like it’s unusual for him as either alignment to do that.

Since YBW is sheeping Zone, we should definitely be discussing this more. Do you think Zone had a good reason for voting Marl so early in the day?

Hmm, ok. So then I guess Seth does have a good reason to be going after whomever performed all the night kills, although at this point I doubt whoever the factional killer is would claim their kills lol.

oh idk, I’m not on MU. I feel like most of the openwolfing that happens here is the D1 fluffposting/memeing phase with random votes for petty reasons. It’s basically a shorter version of what happened in this thread on D1 and D2 (since we couldn’t work off reads as our roles weren’t settled). It’s kind of unusual now that it’s D5 and this is essentially D1 of knowing what our roles are, for most of us, so the memeing phase is long over. But I guess I’ll take your word for it and read Rome’s day opener as NAI since I think the Jane question was valid now.

Oh yeah, now I get it. I think what Rome’s saying is that there was sort of a thunderdome between Marl and me (which seems to have disappeared? or else the PoE is just widening) and that Zone picked one of the two of us to vote after Seth suggested it. On the other hand I remember Zone saying he’s impatient and he’s also been pretty quick to vote every day before this, so it’s not really that odd. He can always change his vote since we’re nowhere near hammering anyone.

yeah it was as i recall lol

Seth is often tunnelly with his reads, maybe not always jumpy with his target. I feel like there’s a very high chance he’s just town, though, from his meta.

oh, he was? that’s worth taking into consideration if that’s true.

you mean you think people are lying about not attacking Simon? I’m not sure exactly what you mean here.

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Kyo is less wolfy than rome and gorta doesn’t exist

Step 1. We lynch Rome

He flips wolf

Step 2. Scum night kills me

Step 3. Scum wins

you’re welcome

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