[FM] Random Rolemadness Madness v3.0 { Game end } - Mafia (MrEevee7/KyoDaz/Solic/htm) wins

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@Centuries

I ask him for experience, he says 20+ games, I mention it’s weird and scumlike, he’s still extremely defensive, nothing else

I was only extremely defensive when I was accused for an NAI early joke post…

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@Centuries

He pushes for Jester existence for some dumb reason trying to scare town off lynching
He pushes it a LOT, like 5 times.

It was a possibilty and Moth’s behaviour was trolly.

Also like I said before, I like looking at all the possibilities.

As well even if they were something else, they were trolling like crazy and we shouldn’t be having our main focus on trolly stuff.

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@Centuries

Pushes Magnus but gives up quickly

I wasn’t even pushing him until later

Me saying “Magnus is doing very scummy things” was me reading him, not pushing him,

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@Centuries

He asks a lot of explaination for reads etc but never really does anything

Yeah I totally did nothing of my own…

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@Htm

Early D1 stuff aren’t good for reads imo, they are usually fluff/memes which is in most cases considered NAI.

@Htm

I mean I wouldn’t really hard townread this

But it is def townish, yeah I can understand where this read is coming from

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Eevee ISO (going to remove any fluff/memes/other which I consider NAI):

MrEevee7:

/vote Magnus

seems pretty suspicious?

Apparently this vote is Rvs, but for rvs it does seem to be pretty weird.

It’s not like “this is suspicious” it’s showing uncertainty which isn’t quite right for an Rvs vote imo.

Then explained by Eevee here:

MrEevee7:

oh wtf no voting?
well that was an rvs vote anyway. but like how are we supposed to start the game

MrEevee7:

well, I know how to play the game. but how do we start the game, with no content to work off of

Like Derps said, even without votes, we can still read people and pressure them.

MrEevee7:

what does N0 mean?

Not much contributions so far, but it is still pretty early into D1 so that could change. Also N0 = Night 0

MrEevee7:

i do think its a little suspicious tbh. I mean I don’t know how fast other people can form reads, but for me it takes time

This is a contribution and it does make sense.

MrEevee7:

well if alice is that good its probably NAI

Yeah it is probably NAI, however I did like the contribution

MrEevee7:

I don’t like the people who hard claimed town and disappeared. fos on magnus and sogman for now

I can understand Sog… but why Magnus? For an early D1 post? I seriously do not get these weird reads.

MrEevee7:

I get that, but lurking and not contributing doesn’t read well

Yeah I agree, there have been some contributions so far. Good sign

(And yeah, this is my first of 2 ISOs on Eevee because of me being so damn lazy… so far my read is slight townlean, I will continue the second one later and then tell you my final read on Eevee)

@Htm

Yeah

You asked him a question and he didn’t answer right? Me and Eevee asked him the same question like 3 times and he didn’t answer.

@Htm

I sorta agree with you on this one tbh

Like Moth wants to kill Dat for ??? reasons and wants to kill me for an early joke post

The accusations really make no sense imo.

These are just some of my contributions

I’m sadly too lazy to show them all though due to having 600 something posts and being on mobile sucks.

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@Htm

While it isn’t lock town evidence, it still gives me a slight townlean on Derp.

Another one.

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@Centuries

Pushes for Lyncher as a neutral / Jester. Really weird

I never pushed lyncher.

Someone had asked and I answered the question, I think Derps did.

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@Magnus

Is there an executioner class?

Nope Magnus is the one that asked not Derps

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@Centuries

If you think about it he wasn’t ever the player that was the most pressured but still plays really defensively safe

I’d like to see my defensive posts that are not from Moth’s joke accusation on me please.

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@Centuries

I refuse that someone that mentions jester 15 times by D1 is town

Explained already.

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@Centuries

Pushes me because apparently avoider isn’t confirmable

I don’t think I ever accused you for that.

Did you actually do an ISO on me…?

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@Centuries

Says Solic townslipped

Then Derps reminded me of fake slips.

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@Centuries

180s on Solic and now he’s probably bussing him

Again I explained this, Derp reminded me that fakeslips are a thing. As well Solic completely went jumping from vote to vote for ??? reasons.

Also why would I buss a player like Solic when he is a much more better player then me?

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@Centuries

Weirdly enough he doesn’t use votes to pressure

I forget to vote often.

Also I used my vote to pressure Sog.

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Also you just ignore a whole bunch of other posts and start with the Kyo posts.

Why?

Because it’s something I remembered before doing ISO

Can you show me these defensive posts?

I just looked into it and I don’t I think I was at all “VERY” defensive.

You constantly feel the need to defend yourself even if only one person SRs you and your survival isn’t threatened/the argument is bad and you keep asking for explaination on people SR’ing you and then you post a “defending myself agaisnt x points”

Can you show me these defensive posts?

I don’t see how I was at all being more defensive. I just explained why I couldn’t ISO.

You literally made 3 posts on how “he’s attacking me so I have the right to defend myself”

Also Alice is usually the target of N1 kills because she is simply good.

As well, do you think I’d be that obvious if I were scum?

Her dying a lot N1 because she’s good doesn’t mean every single kill on her has no motivation, also it isn’t obvious because no one pointed that out yet.

I was only extremely defensive when I was accused for an NAI early joke post…

Nope, you always feel the need to defend yourself

It was a possibilty and Moth’s behaviour was trolly.

Also like I said before, I like looking at all the possibilities.

As well even if they were something else, they were trolling like crazy and we shouldn’t be having our main focus on trolly stuff.

You throwing shade on jester/lyncher existence isn’t townie, no town motivation behind it except “oh we maybe shouldn’t lynch this person because jester is a thing!”

I wasn’t even pushing him until later

Me saying “Magnus is doing very scummy things” was me reading him, not pushing him,

Push your reads then

Yeah I totally did nothing of my own…

For the amount of posts you have, ye.

These are just some of my contributions

I’m sadly too lazy to show them all though due to having 600 something posts and being on mobile sucks.

Everyone can give their opinions, what’s even worse is that none of those posts have any sense of risk and you didn’t even give a read on Eevee. Anyone can give their basic opinion doesn’t mean it’s town-like

I never pushed lyncher.

Someone had asked and I answered the question, I think Derps did.

You mentionning it means you’re pushing for it’s existence because reminding town the role exists does nothing. It’s like saying “oh there might be a cult”

I’d like to see my defensive posts that are not from Moth’s joke accusation on me please.

Anyone who want the answer to that just random scroll through HTM’s ISO and look at how many times he says stuff like

(I lost what he said but basically he was saying he wasn’t SRing me bc of my role ability to self confirm)

You said my role wasn’t confirmable thus you were SR’ing me in a town mindset. you were already doubting me

Did you actually do an ISO on me…?

Oh, no just looked through your 600 posts and said random stuff. No but for real you throwing shade isn’t helping your case

Also why would I buss a player like Solic when he is a much more better player then me?

Town cred? Scum bussing is always a thing?

I forget to vote often.

Also I used my vote to pressure Sog.

Forgetting to vote isn’t the same as never voting.

(But this is my defence to Cheeki:

No one actually ever explained to me how to toneread.

How do you expect me to know how to toneread?

Also if I was scum then why didn’t I ask the other scum in scumchat what tone meant so I wouldn’t get scumread like this?

I don’t think I ever accused you for that.

OR

Also SirDerpsAlot why do you think that “my reaction” (it was me continuing my statement of Solic jumping from vote to vote but whatever) is scummy?

What is scummy about it?

(that’s 2 posts in a row)

^^ example of overly defending themselves

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@Centuries

You constantly feel the need to defend yourself even if only one person SRs you and your survival isn’t threatened/the argument is bad and you keep asking for explaination on people SR’ing you and then you post a “defending myself agaisnt x points”

Why is knowing the reason of my accusation at all scummy?

(Also finally I’m freed from the consecutive post limit.)

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@Centuries

You literally made 3 posts on how “he’s attacking me so I have the right to defend myself”

This isn’t being defensive.

I want to know the reason for my accusation. Also when others scumread and townread people I asked why too. I want to know the reason behind basically anything. I don’t see how that is scummy.

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@Centuries

Her dying a lot N1 because she’s good doesn’t mean every single kill on her has no motivation, also it isn’t obvious because no one pointed that out yet.

Check basically any town game Alice is was in

She dies N1 like most of the time. Others can confirm too.

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Anyway I’m going to sleep for a bit.

Once I wake up I’m going to continue my defence.

[Centuries]

You do not do anything with information you’ve gained and stay passive. You did very little beyond surviving