[FM] Ritual Mafia 3 - Heretics win!

I am sorry but what? I don’t even begin to follow this question. It may be because it’s 3 am and I woke up mid sleep but like huh?

Thamasa has good points on that front, so I’d reccomend having a quick read of this for a summary of what I think about Blue.

I live partially in the past, because I’ve basically skimmed the last 1000 posts and that was your first interaction with me.

Both are required though.

Yes it may be easier to prove Blue is a wolf and that is who we should lynch.

However we also need to prove Lady town to eliminate bussing. Since I don’t have Lady meta to go by and I know Lady is Alice’s friend and Alice likes bussing making sure Lady isn’t bussing is a valid concern.

So Blue being more likely than Lady solves today. However if Blue is scum it doesn’t townfirm Lady

Geyde also has a point here, and there’s no arguing that he dosen’t have a clue what he’s talking about.

Sure whatever. I might have put it between quotations, but I do mean that she’s a more skilled player than your average joe, so the actual point I made applies. Maybe you can address that instead?

Or are you making the argument the frustation she shows with this site makes her townie?

I like never see the bus scenario here, but let’s lynch Blue, because it’s easier to find scummy things on him is just like… what… are you even reading this yourself? I don’t even fucking know how to tear that apart.

if Blue is a wolf, LT is all but spewed villager unless this is an elaborate theatre
Blue is wolfier than LadyThamasa
therefore, we lynch Blue

Even Math, somebody who reads LT as a wolf has his vote on Blue because it resolves far more slots

I might, but unlikely will be able to revisit later in depth, but am probably just going to vote based on Thamasa’s/Blue’s reply to me.

Her frustration with the site is NAI.

How she expresses if imho is AI.

She could have easily continued to flip her shit. And if she did we would probably be lynching Blue right now. She put aside any “ego” for the betterment of lynching her redcheck/bus/fake red check claim. For someone feeling that deep level of emotion to listen and slow their roll makes them more than likely town.

Yes I am.

It’s a thunderdome

If X is more likely to be scum than Y, lynch X. It’s really that simple. You can’t tear that apart because it is logic.

And I am discounting elaborate theatre for now. She is an L3 player though so it is still something in the back of my mind

I mean, just take an example from Blue’s ISO and there’s usually something wrong with it.

Notice how desperate Blue is here? He feels motivated to call LT a wolf for trying to shadethrow somebody who could still be a wolf, and is even using the fact that she got Geyde’s flip wrong as a reason to prove that she is a wolf.

You can make the argument that he’s desperate because he wants to “win” the thunderdome and make the +EV play of getting the wolf who he’s in a thunderdome with killed rather than outing them, but if that’s the case, why is it that in most of his posts there’s no sign of a villagery determination to come out on top of the thunderdome?

His entire motivation when it comes to responding to the thunderdome is totally nonsensical if he’s a villager, which leaves only the fact that he is probably a wolf.

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also, his obsession with trying to prove the narrative of him being great at pushing buttons and the wolves thunderdoming him rather than just pushing buttons to counter his button pushing skills makes no sense whatsoever

It’s not like this narrative is made in posts designed to be internal, for his own thoughts, but apparently this is the obvious narrative that makes it obvious that LT is a wolf.

Everything about BlueStorm feels forced in some kind of sense simmilar to that.

@Solic I hope that makes a kind of sense? Really, this will be resolved pretty quickly if we kill Blue today so I’m more interested in finding wolves elsewhere, so forgive the low WiM, but I feel pretty confident that this explains why Blue is a wolf.

fun fact: you’re not the best mechanical player Blue, you’re just good at getting lucky when you push buttons

I think I only just read this post lmao

Sorry, this wasn’t meant to offend. I just don’t think that mechanical play takes that much skill, and I especially dislike Blue thinking that red peeking somebody makes him “the best mechanical player on the forum” as a way to excuse not bothering to be good at reading.

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Math let’s be real here, your meta is showing and I just picked up on it, nothing more nothing less. Almost no one seems to disagree with that or people would have voted you by now, especially for some of the crazy things you proposed so far.

Like have your suspicion on me all you want, it’s wrong but be smart about one thing Baz is pretty much lock town at this point. Just reread him and his interactions and especially around Geydes flip.

Honestly can you explain this I have no clue what you mean, and I’m just trying to even understand your argument

Seriously this is all you are gonna do this game, pop in and vote me, wheres Magnus from Chaos FM who had their own pushes and their own agenda to push. I’m really not liking your game so far

Like no, I was extremely null on Geyde during the ritual phase. I was unsure which way he was gonna flip and kinda beleived that one not only did Baz SR him which he is pretty accurate as seen from other games, but also we gained a lot of info from his flip. Maybe that’s why you see the flip floppiness because he was pretty null and I was putting faith in someone’s reads.

How am I confirmed evil, because Ici scumread me. Like unless you know something I don’t this seems weird.

He did give a read on me earlier

You interpreted me saying that you were a wolf who was trying to get a free kill by ritualing Geyde not as “I wasn’t trying to do that” but rather you thought the fact that there had to be a ritual meant that you couldn’t get a free kill. Therefore, your concept of a free kill is a wolf’s concept of a free kill; you knew 100% that Geyde/PKR were both villagers, and thus that killing them in ritual would only ever spew/do things negative for your allignment.

It’s a bit complicated but you 100% spewed your perspective as being a wolf’s perspective there.