[FM] Ritual Mafia IV -- Day 4 (7/16) -- Heretics and Traitor Win!

[Vulgard]

also marshal fishing for a selfhammer/quickhammer by putting amelia to l-1 when tomorrow is literally lylo and when he said he had no wolfreads is a dumb as fuck move to be pulling as a villager because it’s putting the day’s length at risk and he should be fishing for time to solve, not a hammer 4 hours before eod

like what’s he doing??? he’s not outing anyone by doing this he’s just asking for the day to end early, selfhammer or not, and that’s idiotic

the above post is a wolfy as fuck pop in too

[Marshal]

if anyone hammered/amelia self hammered we had a scum dummi

[Arete]

you’re probably going to yell at me for this

but my initial take on what was going on there was that he was trying to clear Amelia with ‘Amelia would self-hammer as W so she’s v’

[Marshal]

i was offering amelia the chance, if scum, to cut day off early.

[Vulgard]

kill
the
people
who are not trying to solve the game
and for whom it’s absolutely deliberate
napoleon is actually the least wolfy because his replacement doesn’t exist but his earlygame was too bad for me to ignore

@Arete

but my initial take on what was going on there was that he was trying to clear Amelia with ‘Amelia would self-hammer as W so she’s v’

he didn’t say shit about why he did it because there was no good and non-wolfy purpose

[Marshal]

in return we get a wolf flip

I stand by these choices in general

[Marshal]

@Vulgard

there was no good and non-wolfy purpose

@Marshal

in return we get a wolf flip

[Vulgard]

yes because a wolf would self-hammer 100% of the time 4 hours before eod instead of waiting for eod to maybe wiggle out of it

[Arete]

@Vulgard

napoleon’s slot i feel is getting a pass for no reason because napoleon was super wolfy early despite a high postcount and his replacement didn’t really help much so the slot is stuck in a similar position n.1’s slot was in evolution, and n.1 was a wolf that game. the position being “eeeeeh durrrr this can be a wolf but maybe let’s not lynch this now ok” which i unfortunately contributed to as well
i have no idea why this slot is getting a pass and honestly this should have died a long time ago

okay

this is the first one I actively disagree with

I had Napoleon as kind of sketchy yesterday but my initial read of Kyo’s spew looked pretty clearing for him (in a ‘Kyo was blatantly white knighting’ way)

let me go find the actual posts and figure out if I still believe it

[Marshal]

well it’s not likely

but a villager does it 0% of the time

wolf maybe like 10% at least.

[Vulgard]

you know what would help
if gorta was here and i could read them
i’ll try to do it right now but i don’t think they’ve done anything actively villagery
there’s slight v looks for the sadness about not being listened to or heard at all but i feel like that can easily be wolfy as well
and their tone doesn’t ping me strongly either way

[ChopChop]

@Arete

do you think I’m misclearing someone and if so who is it

Ici.
I still believe Derps Slot is Wolf

[Vulgard]

bruh that slot is lock clear

[katze]

@Vulgard

wazza

@Vulgard

hard v

can you explain this one

im lightly TRing them but i don’t think they’re locktown by any means?

@Vulgard

drybones

drybones is 100% not starting groupscum imo
convert, maybe? seems like a weird target but also consensus town so maybe

@Vulgard

braixen

same case with drybones imo

@Vulgard

napoleon’s slot

i brought this up earlier

the lack of discussion on this slot is VERY concerning

@Vulgard

apprentice and amelia

i still scumread both of these slots

but your thought process makes sense and i don’t think you’re W trying to defend two wolves here

@Vulgard

sulit

disagree on the conclusion but the thought process is fair

@Vulgard

fucking marshal

you’re convincing me that i might have miscleared marshal

but i still truly don’t think his EoD1 push comes from a wolf and im definitely miclearing him too much for one shitty push aren’t i…

@Vulgard

i think that’s all players covered here, either read this post and try to solve the damn game with me, or call me a wolf and vote me, whatever the fuck. point is the current thread consensus is bad, the current pushes are probably bad, and i am here to finally win as a villager after several months of losses, not to sit here quietly and watch another mislynch happen

ily

@Vulgard

ignore the fact wiisp was villagery af and look at just amelia

my only minor gripe here is

derps was pretty not villagery and we kinda cleared him off of ici
can the reverse not apply for wisp>amelia?

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also you’re locktown cause you wrote a wallpost

[ChopChop]

@Vulgard

bruh that slot is lock clear

In what way?

[Vulgard]

it’s like the biggest lock clear in the game right now because the slot townslipped hard as fuck and it wasn’t fake
and also ici is a rather easy read if you know what to look for

[ChopChop]

You don’t think their Lone Wolf?

[Marshal]

It is easy as fuck to get townread.

If I wanted to get townread rn i could but like my own laziness is what’s stopping that.

thinking i’d deliberately just do this shit as like a wolf reason is dummi vul and u know it

[Vulgard]

no ici is a villager
i admit that derps may not have been lock clear at all
but ici elevated the hell out of that slot in like 10 posts
ici sounds completely different as a wolf than he does as a villager and in this game his posts are in his village meta, peak village ici meta which involves creativity and a pure need to solve the game
wolf icibalus doesn’t like to play fm and it’s really obvious

[Vulgard]

btw if u guys think i’m being insulting or angry or something then please don’t because i’m not even angry in front of the monitor, but i want to do something because the thread has been frozen af and that’s a bad sign
especially since i’ve reconsidered stuff and come to different conclusions