[FM] Ritual Mafia IV -- Day 4 (7/16) -- Heretics and Traitor Win!

[Apprentice]

I mean I’ve given the reads that I actually have. Only new read is that I townread katze, but I don’t feel like saying why rn. I could make up some more reads but they wouldn’t be genuine and that seems counter-productive. Why do you scumread me? That might help me defend myself better

[Arete]

no Wisp is actually pretty competent from what I’ve seen of him

which is like 2 games, only one of which was a village game

but still

[Wazza]

The fuck’s going on?

[ChopChop]

@sulit

/vote Drybones

Hi!

[sulit]

wisp is competent, can confirm

[Alice]

Thinking Sulit’s probably V here because of how vocally contrarian they’ve been, tbh.

[sulit]

Do you have any thoughts on the lynch at all or are you just going to lurk for the entire EOD?

[Wazza]

I’m really fucking confused. and day ends in 1 hours and 20 mins.

[Wisp]

no
your read of him certainly isnt shallow
but the fact that you believe it so strongly, bothers me
there is definitely no way you are W/W
and I now think its unlikely he is a W at all
now I have to decide if you have TMI or if you actually believe that

[Wazza]

I got time to read. Brb.

[sulit]

@Chloe

vocally contrarian

I have no idea what this means

[Braixen]

Arice ISO

Claims

Town Reads

• Kyo

@katze

They look far more experienced then.

@KyoDaz

Braixen / DryBones / SDA / Apprentice / Alice contain at least two scum

Dry and I are both V this match. I think Apprentice has W equity and I still need more from Braix and SDA.

@katze

You’re not bad. You just FPS too much for your own good.

@katze

@katze

are all of your townreads based off of slips

Tbh only Kyo’s the one who slipped. Wazza was by mindset and the other two were tonal or meta.

@katze

I didn’t mean it personally.

I meant that your eccentric playstyle makes you hard to read.

• Drybones

@katze

They look far more experienced then.

@KyoDaz

Braixen / DryBones / SDA / Apprentice / Alice contain at least two scum

Dry and I are both V this match. I think Apprentice has W equity and I still need more from Braix and SDA.

Very confused as to why they think Dry is V, they offer little explanation.

• Wazza

@katze

@Wazza

@katze

@Wazza

Additionally, Arete acts omega Town in every game. Let’s be real here.

Also, this post reminds me a hell lot of what you said here during Clash of Cults regarding Vulgard.

Top Town: Vulgard - His genuine attitude seems Townlike and his co-operation to actually participate in the game correctly makes me believe that he is Town. Although saying that I have an un-weary feeling because I feel that he is too Town. Top Scum: I don’t really have a scumread as I’ve not been scum-reading people, I’ve just been reading the thread, if I had to choose someone probably Napoleon or Kai as I am not really a big fan of people pretending to be Paladin and having fake-red checks …

I was scum that game.

…why am I village-reading this comment?

@katze

@katze

are all of your townreads based off of slips

Tbh only Kyo’s the one who slipped. Wazza was by mindset and the other two were tonal or meta.

Scum Reads

• Appel

@katze

@Appelsiini

she just wanted to put the pressure on someone else rather than actually scumreading them.

Also why make this read so early in the game?

@katze

@Appelsiini

Alice and you being V/W: Explained already, I don’t personally believe Alice would go for such a simple play just because I’ve seen a bit of their playstyle.

@Appelsiini

How many games have you watched me play so far?

@katze

@Appelsiini

The opinion of you wasn’t influenced by anything iirc.

So what made you think we were W/W distancing?

• Sulit
  ???
• Apprentice

@katze

I think her or Apprentice is the best bet rn. She looks way too non-confrontational this match.

• Jgoes
  ???
  Maybe this?

@katze

@Jane

Looking at this I don’t get why they put KyoDaz this high. Like they didn’t seem to be townreading him except for the “slip” that wasn’t really a slip. I’d also expect Arete to be higher since Alice agreed with most of their reads iirc.

Do keep in mind that I stopped reading shortly after the readslist due to time constraints.

I don’t really have time to evaluate the reads themselves since it’s like already 00:43 here and I still want to have time to look at the main wagons.

In conclusion Alice is a wolflean for me since I feel like their progression doesn’t really make sense on Kyo and Arete.

My read on KyoDaz changed as there’s no way that he’s a member of the Heretics if he didn’t know that that they get one of each wolf class here. He pretty much townslipped here while he was my top scumread which is why I had that huge 180 on him.

Also Arete isn’t that high because Arete doing that isn’t really too out of his wolfrange as he’s a more experience player while Wazza, Seth, and Kyo are less inexperienced wolves. I never put players who I know can wolf effieciently high in my readlists.

Overall thoughts: They are fucking Scum

[Braixen]

*Alice

[katze]

just use a random number generator and vote that person

that’s basically whats going on

[Napoleon]

@Apprentice

Because you are doing a lot of fluffposting, the thread mostly feels villagery, and your reads are superficial with conclusions that we have all came up with

[KyoDaz]

Why do you scumread DryBones?

[Alice]

Yeah, because not understanding about point of views make them competent.

[Braixen]

Alice ISO

Claims

Town Reads

• Kyo

@katze

They look far more experienced then.

@KyoDaz

Braixen / DryBones / SDA / Apprentice / Alice contain at least two scum

Dry and I are both V this match. I think Apprentice has W equity and I still need more from Braix and SDA.

@katze

You’re not bad. You just FPS too much for your own good.

@katze

@katze

are all of your townreads based off of slips

Tbh only Kyo’s the one who slipped. Wazza was by mindset and the other two were tonal or meta.

@katze

I didn’t mean it personally.

I meant that your eccentric playstyle makes you hard to read.

• Drybones

@katze

They look far more experienced then.

@KyoDaz

Braixen / DryBones / SDA / Apprentice / Alice contain at least two scum

Dry and I are both V this match. I think Apprentice has W equity and I still need more from Braix and SDA.

Very confused as to why they think Dry is V, they offer little explanation.

• Wazza

@katze

@Wazza

@katze

@Wazza

Additionally, Arete acts omega Town in every game. Let’s be real here.

Also, this post reminds me a hell lot of what you said here during Clash of Cults regarding Vulgard.

Top Town: Vulgard - His genuine attitude seems Townlike and his co-operation to actually participate in the game correctly makes me believe that he is Town. Although saying that I have an un-weary feeling because I feel that he is too Town. Top Scum: I don’t really have a scumread as I’ve not been scum-reading people, I’ve just been reading the thread, if I had to choose someone probably Napoleon or Kai as I am not really a big fan of people pretending to be Paladin and having fake-red checks …

I was scum that game.

…why am I village-reading this comment?

@katze

@katze

are all of your townreads based off of slips

Tbh only Kyo’s the one who slipped. Wazza was by mindset and the other two were tonal or meta.

Scum Reads

• Appel

@katze

@Appelsiini

she just wanted to put the pressure on someone else rather than actually scumreading them.

Also why make this read so early in the game?

@katze

@Appelsiini

Alice and you being V/W: Explained already, I don’t personally believe Alice would go for such a simple play just because I’ve seen a bit of their playstyle.

@Appelsiini

How many games have you watched me play so far?

@katze

@Appelsiini

The opinion of you wasn’t influenced by anything iirc.

So what made you think we were W/W distancing?

• Sulit
  ???
• Apprentice

@katze

I think her or Apprentice is the best bet rn. She looks way too non-confrontational this match.

• Jgoes
  ???
  Maybe this?

@katze

@Jane

Looking at this I don’t get why they put KyoDaz this high. Like they didn’t seem to be townreading him except for the “slip” that wasn’t really a slip. I’d also expect Arete to be higher since Alice agreed with most of their reads iirc.

Do keep in mind that I stopped reading shortly after the readslist due to time constraints.

I don’t really have time to evaluate the reads themselves since it’s like already 00:43 here and I still want to have time to look at the main wagons.

In conclusion Alice is a wolflean for me since I feel like their progression doesn’t really make sense on Kyo and Arete.

My read on KyoDaz changed as there’s no way that he’s a member of the Heretics if he didn’t know that that they get one of each wolf class here. He pretty much townslipped here while he was my top scumread which is why I had that huge 180 on him.

Also Arete isn’t that high because Arete doing that isn’t really too out of his wolfrange as he’s a more experience player while Wazza, Seth, and Kyo are less inexperienced wolves. I never put players who I know can wolf effieciently high in my readlists.

Overall thoughts: They are fucking Scum

[Arete]

why do you think that

all I see is a bunch of quotes

[sulit]

He feels off. He’s been online for the past like, 3 hours and I don’t remember a stance he’s taken on the lynch.