[FM] Ritual Mafia IV -- Day 4 (7/16) -- Heretics and Traitor Win!

[Icibalus]

So… what’s the story on Braixen?

[Icibalus]

Why did I say Braixen when I meant Napoleon? Was I really that tired an hour ago??

[Alice]

@N.1

Vulgard has been found dead in the congregational chambers! He was . . .

Okay, so I’m pretty sure that the converted was an offensive class or the Shaman used Soul Rip on Vulgard. There’s no way he should have died being that I healed him last night.

[Alice]

@an_gorta_pratai

How did Vulgard die then?

See my response. I was also on Vulgard last night.

[Alice]

So, if another sorcerer was converted then it has to be either Ici, Seth, both which I doubt, or Sulit or Arete. Arete here technically would be the optimal convert, but I’m focusing on reading App and re-doing Kyo’s backreads for now.

[Alice]

Seth/Ici/Braix here is 100% V for me.

Ideally I’d also look on their actions so I think sacrificing Seth here would be a very good choice as we’d be able to double lynch.

[Alice]

This… is a very bad idea.

KyoDaz had Cleanse, so unless an Offensive or Killer was converted then we’d be 100% giving the Heretics another convert.

[Alice]

@Braixen

n2: Seance Italy
Italy: Without a Doubt Heretics will Cleanse

…They are very unlikely to have another Cleanse user.

[Alice]

@an_gorta_pratai

If cleanse is active then it’s a bad thing, but not horrible. We will lose a townie, but at the same time they can’t get a convert.

…we’re close to MyLo. We shouldn’t be talking about a possibility that may only happen if the wolves converted an offensive and we should start focusing on actual reads.

Seriously, this is going to end up as yet another town loss because the thread was flooded with mech talk. Again.

[Alice]

@Braixen

We know for a fact Dry is heretic

…why?

[Alice]

@Arete

I’m okay with myself although a part of me kind of doesn’t want it to be me because if I shoot town and we lose because of it then it’s 100 percent my fault

I still haven’t you cleared from a potential convert, so I’d rather someone else.

[Alice]

@ChopChop

We could Ritual Apprentice today.

This… is probably the worst Rit we can do today.

[Alice]

@Wazza

Vulgard visited Vulgard

…what?

Wait, Vulgard used CoF, didn’t he?

[Alice]

Wait, this actually makes sense if

Binding Spell (Night) - Prevent a player from performing their night action and make them appear as a class of your choice to investigators. If targeted by “Clairvoyance” they will appear to have visited whoever the Heretics attack tonight. - Unlimited uses

was used.

So this means that the convert is in Arete/Ici/Seth/Sulit/Apprentice.

[Alice]

Oh, nevermind.

[Alice]

@katze

betting on a cleanse here is mathematically dumb imo

if it works we’re geniuses but if it doesn’t work we’re very dumb

and given the D2 sac was on the person who can cleanse, a cleanse is only possible if the convert does it

It’s basically why I have no idea why Braixen is so insistent that Cleanse was used here.

[Alice]

@Arete

this set-up feels really scumsided

maybe that’s just because we ritualed scum D2 but like

25 percent is a normal ratio for set-ups where you aren’t killing an extra bonus town every day

Not really, the issue here is that wolves need to be killed ASAP otherwise they end up snowballing hard. The fact that we fucked up the only Ritual so far and both Lynches is one of the reason why the wolves are so far ahead.

[Alice]

@Icibalus

tl;dr: i think Wazza is a wolf because his push on Arete was attrocious and so I occupied him last night.

Wazza claims he saw Vulgard visiting, so unless someone strongwilled him then this means if this isn’t an FPS that there is a wolf in either you or him.

[Alice]

Wait, we don’t have an Exorcist, so nobody can get strongwilled.

[Icibalus]

Wait, there is actually a way Wazza could still be a villager, although I do doubt it: Kyo chose Offensive on his Ritual of Sleep, making my action do nothing!