[FM] Ritual Mafia IV -- Day 4 (7/16) -- Heretics and Traitor Win!

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#11223

Possible explanation for how Vulgard died?

#11224

Yeah they wouldnā€™t have any reason to

#11225

i donā€™t fucking know
but like
thereā€™s a series of contradictions here

#11226

Possible, but then we would have to come to the assumption that a Traitor has already joined Heretic Chat

#11227

The issue is, according to the heals we have on Vulgard, if Seer were to kill, a few things would have to be true.

Supports were stopped by Kyo

Wazza or Icibalus would be scum.

Or:

All Supports are fake.

Or:

Elementalist has found scum.

Elementalist used Fire Rune on Vulgard to guarantee the kill.

#11228

Which seemsā€¦bad. If I was Elementalist Iā€™d use Fire Rune on the killer.

#11229

To stop them from being occed.

This is of course different as long as Offensives really were prevented entirely.

#11230

wait

something doesnā€™t add up

#11231

your result means he wasnā€™t fire runed idiot

and i know this support isnt fake

#11232

Itā€™s not too much of a stretch to assume that the Traitor just
predicted that theyā€™d kill Vul?

#11233

vulgard couldnā€™t have been swapped

#11234

Oh yeah.

#11235

Right, but he was a miller even to being tracked.

#11236

Vulgard canā€™t have been swapped.
Nor could we have been prevented. I got a result on him

#11237

yes but wazza would have been swapped off of vulgard

#11238

Thus that was 100% Shaman.

#11239

which means either i was occed/redirected
or stronkman was used

#11240

which means his logs are real

and he was strongmanned

#11241

Thatā€™s not whatā€™s happening? Itā€™s not a swap. Itā€™s because tracking Vul makes him always appear to be visiting who the Heretics killed.

#11242

It is still possible Kyoā€™s ritual blocked supports tbh