[FM] Ritual Mafia IV -- Day 4 (7/16) -- Heretics and Traitor Win!

[Arete]

@katze

i remember when i first read it i agreed with most of it

same

[katze]

reading D1 she seems interested in trying to sort slots she considered hard to read though

such as myself

[an_gorta_pratai]

I think Alice might be scum based on that list.

[an_gorta_pratai]

It just doesn’t sit well with me. I don’t care if these people townread me it still doesn’t sit well with me.

[N.1]

i also bled our devout king, which I maintain was a valuable distraction but admit was a mechanically painful decision for us, and we probably only won because town was stupid that last night

[an_gorta_pratai]

I would rather the town read me as slighty scummy than some scum say “hey, this guy is completely town”. I can’t shake the feeling that by being TR by these guys that they make me look even more scummy than I am.

[katze]

im lightly leaning towards alice not being starting groupscum and the readlist just being kinda bad in hindsight

her convert equity always exists because she’s alice

but Kyo/Alice interactions still suggest that it isn’t W/W and i think she seems genuinely interested in solving certain slots

Summary

@Chloe

Ask me about any of my reads so far.

@Chloe

Katze: Null/Semi-null as I have yet to see any post from Katze that pings wolf or village.

@Chloe

This is usually because of your posting style and this happens in pretty much every game I’m in. You can check it in every game we’ve played together.

You kind of feel very monotone-ish at most times so you can’t be tone read and from reading your last wolfgame your wolf-range regarding fake-solving is actually pretty wide, so you’re in general a hard read.

@Chloe

@Arete

@Marshal

How’s Katze regarding their tendency to FPS? From what I’ve seen them as V it looks like they do try a lot of unconventional strats as V. Does this hold true when they’re W?

@Chloe

So they have a very similar V/W ranges?

granted i don’t think ive actually read a wolf!alice game, so my confidence in reading her slot isn’t immensely high

[katze]

@Arete

leaves Wazza/Alice/Gorta/sulit as our {1-2 starting heretics and 0-1 D2 converted heretics} pool

i think in general this is a good pool to look at

i have two names in particular i want to look at more intently, but i also want to save that for when they’re actually in thread

[an_gorta_pratai]

Am I correct in saying that being TR by those two has made me look a bit more scummy?

[katze]

actually im skimming D2 Ritual when we were discussing peeks

i remember thinking sulit was subliminally trying to subvert being peeked

[an_gorta_pratai]

I could honestly see Sulit as starting scum. The Marshal flip sort of changed my opinion on App’s slot, could still be converted, but Chloe has don tons to boost App’s slot. I still don’t quite like it though

[katze]

i think this is most, if not everything sulit said regards to who italy should peek

@sulit

I kinda want Alice checked

@sulit

I want Alice to be peeked tbh

@sulit

I’d be fine with those people

Derps specifically

But I do not like the Alice vibes

@sulit

why is an Alice check a bad idea?

@sulit

I wouldn’t be opposed to being peeked but I think SDA is better

espeically since I won’t really be able to do much with it because school and jank

@sulit

italy would you be opposed to checking alice

@sulit

actually derps is prolly better tbh

@sulit

I don’t care, check me if you want to

[katze]

actually i think thats only the latter parts of it

but i know at the beginning the only people beign discussed were me, you, and derps

and then eventually it went to sulit or derps iirc

lemme recheck

[Arete]

who did Marshal want checked

[katze]

me at first

i forgot where he ended up though, maybe derps?

[katze]

i know he was pushing for me and/or you

but iirc it was more me than you

[Chloe]

Okay so what happened to sulit not liking jgoes’ slot

Was there mechnical info on that?

[katze]

@sulit

sulit would like sulit to be checked if sulit is basically null for everyone still

@sulit

A marshal check could be a thing

oh i missed these two things, pretend this is at the very top

the first message is a decent look but she wasn’t really being super discussed at this point

[katze]

i think it was all because sulit didn’t like their (few) posts

[Arete]

sulit roleblocked Jgoes N1 (or, well, Jgoes was roleblocked N1 and soolit claims it)

hm

actually it’s kind of weird that she wasn’t pushing for a Jgoes peek there