[FM] Ritual Mafia IV -- Day 4 (7/16) -- Heretics and Traitor Win!

[sulit]

blocked Arete

[Alice]

@Arete

what made you decide to heal Wazza over Kyo N1 (or DryBones, I guess, but)

Kyo claimed BM and nobody would ever kill Seth as he’s more of a burden alive then dead for the village.

[Alice]

So let’s start from the beginning.

We know that the wolves are either:

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Kyo from Mid-D2->??? after Mid-D2
Marshal from Mid-D3->??? after Mid D3.
???
Traitor?

Or

Kyo from Mid-D2-> Marshal after Mid-D2 to Mid-D3->??? after Mid D3.
???
???
Traitor?

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Ideally I’m thinking that the former situation is where the gamestate is as I don’t think Marshal’s RTs early D2 would have come from a V!Marshall

Here’s basically the villagers.

• Braixen - Guaranteed up until mid D3. Medium claim checks out and his aggression is something I’ve never seen in his W game.
• Drybones - Still V-ish. See what I wrote above. Him making a beeline to want to vote obvtown Icibalus never comes from him as a wolf.
• Sulit - Still up in the air.
• katze - Guaranteed up until mid D3. Like, asking to be peeked by Italy, and then Marshal swapping with him never makes sense from a wolf.
• Arete - Guaranteed up until mid D2 as I was mindmelding a lot with him D2 and from Italy’s check as he cannot be W/W with Marhsal.
• Alice - I’m self-resolving.
• Wazza - Most likely to be D2 convert from the shift in flow of his posts. See his interaction with Arete regarding me. Would be a priority lynch rn.
• Icibalus - Guaranteed up until mid D3 as he’s been ridicolously villagery since then. Also never W/W with Kyo being that he was hard-pushed on him,
• an_gorta_pratai - Guaranteed up until mid D2 Never W/W with Kyo. Was blatantly pocketed by him d1.
• Chloe - Like, I shouldn’t even post why I think this slot is wolfy as I’ve been trying to get them lynched the entire game.

So basically.

Pool for last starting wolf.

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Chloe
Sulit

…basically the last remaining two that haven’t had any decent interactions with Kyo or Marshall, don’t have any mech info, and is basically up to themselves here. I still think Chloe is the go-to lynch for today.

Pool for Kyo’s convert.

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Chloe
Sulit
Arete
Wazza
Gorta

…basically I’m pretty sure that it’s Wazza over Arete/Gorta. Arete’s posts remained the same. Gorta has just been making mech fluff and he’s hard to read, but Wazza has been far more agenda-y today which makes me believe that he’s very likely a W by now.

Pool for Marshal’s convert.

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Chloe
Sulit
Arete
Wazza
Gorta
Ici
Katze
Braixen

…basically here it could be anyone outside of Dry who obvtown himselfs easily or I.

Pool for Traitor

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Chloe
Sulit
Arete
Wazza
Gorta
Katze

Remove Braixen and Ici as I really don’t think they’re ever the traitor here.

Quick summary of my thoughts. I’ll now have to backread Marshal for more info, tbh.

[Alice]

@Chloe

Quick summary of my thoughts. I’ll now have to backread Marshal for more info, tbh.

1718 posts… fucking hell.

[Alice]

@Marshal

hey sulit your posts are kind of devoid of logic but i wanna give you a start

@sulit

but I feel like there’s an obvious different between poisonous/nightless and this game

why not just skim his ISO in that game and here and compare. Preferably with quotes

@Marshal

@sulit

Meanwhile in this game their posts just feel kinda shorter and they don’t have the same energy that I see in the above ^

ok so imma sound like a dick but can you quote posts from his game here too?

Hmm… Marshal’s comments towards Sulit feel a lot like coaching.

[Icibalus]

god my WiM at this precise moment is so low that I’d actually rather be playing wolf right now.

[Icibalus]

Now that we’ve established that this is the darkest hour for the village, let’s begin.

[Icibalus]

@sulit

@Chloe

This player moves her votes a lot - and provides little to no reasoning for them. It’s a good look that they didn’t agree with an Appel lynch, and thought Appel would flip scum, but they did vote Appel at one point, without any reasoning from what I can find. Along with this, the swap to Jgoes makes no sense, unless I’m missing something, as she refused to vote Jgoes while her scumread was on the wagon, but once Napoleon moved off of Jgoes, she pushed him hard and attempted to get a CFD.

I didn’t want to vote Jgoes because there was no reason for me to move off of Napoleon to him

Near EOD I scumread Napoleon less and Jgoes more

I do move around a lot and change my mind a lot, especially D1

Unless I’m like hard tunneling someone

I also voted Appel because my read on them was far from strong and I didn’t like the way the votes were moving around at that time.

hey so
this post is atrocious

[Alice]

Same, but I’m more frustrated here, tbh.

Rather than actually talk about the actual Ritual everyone kept talking about whether or not the Heretics would use Cleanse without any evidence to back them up, even as we have no idea if there’s a Sorcerer or not and they managed to win just by piling up on Marshal.

Like, this is even dumber than LotR as people here aren’t just trusting mechanics, they’re just deciding on a hunch with zero evidence behind it and present as their mechanical evidence on why they’re right.

[Alice]

What were the EoD1 wagons, again?

[Icibalus]

should have picked Mount Doom you cowards

[Icibalus]

@astand

Accused	Voters	Number
Appelsiini	Arete, Braixen, Alice, katze, Apprentice, Marshal	6/9
Jgoesgaming	sulit, Wiisp, Napoleon	3/9
SirDerpsAlot	DryBones, KyoDaz	2/9
sulit	Wazza	1/9
Wiisp	SirDerpsAlot	1/9

Here’s the VC for EoD.

[Icibalus]

by the way I can’t be the only person to think it’s a silly idea to include guilted vigs in a game where one of the Location options is a place that makes vigs compulsive to seemingly no benefit to the village???

[Alice]

Guilted vigs don’t belong in FM. The only reason why they’re there in ToL and ToS is to prevent serial gamethrowers.

[Alice]

@Marshal

ngl i wouldn’t hate a sulit peek either

@Marshal

she has the right mix of being null, being competent, and being dangerous

How much has Marshall pushed on this, and was him the only player who did this?

[Icibalus]

Layers of yikes involved:

• Near EoD shift over to a now-flipped villager.
• The post is a response to Chloe’s weird impersonal and weirdly worded wallpost in a strange manner.
• The post includes a potential cover to not only the speciifc situation but also to something that didn’t happen, and is incredibly vague.
• Didn’t like the way the votes were moving yet at EoD they ended up voting with their second strongest wolfread???
• seriously that’s a seriously bad EoD and a worse justification of it

[Icibalus]

I could swear the wolves have a way to make one of their number peek as v?

[Alice]

This was a modpeek during the day.

[Icibalus]

And quite frankly I don’t remember much of Marshal, so don’t ask me. I’ll take a look, though.

[Icibalus]

So we were talking about calling for the Ritual of… Who, exactly?