[FM] Ritual Mafia IV -- Day 4 (7/16) -- Heretics and Traitor Win!

/Vote An_Gorta

Iā€™m probably going to lose this game due to the fact people are incapable of recognizing a Mislynch from a Scum Lynch.

Looks like everything went silent.
Because everyone knows Iā€™m right.

this votes definitely better than your arete vote

I mean I think An is a good lynch tbh

Same goes for Sulit and Wazza

Heck off.

Did someone hear a woof?

Wazza is ALWAYS TOWN

it would be helpful if you could explain why you think this is true and give actual reasons

right now you are not doing that, which makes it kind of hard to figure out if youā€™re right or not

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Arete scum lololololololololo

1)With his visit on Apprentice and the overall interactions with the other scum he can never be starting scum.
2)Out of everyone alive heā€™s least likely to be chosen as the converted as there are better targets such as You, Alice and Braxien.

I think heā€™s Lone Wolf

Yes I will agree with you there, Arete is in my Lone Wolf Candidates

Why does Wazza claiming to visit App mean he canā€™t be starting scum?

What about his interactions with the flipped scum do you see as never W/W?

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Math time
10/16 players
Has to have 2 starting heretics, I.E Shaman and Seer. As marshal was convert.
1 Traitor.

Finding Scum Part 1

3/10 at minimum 3/10 people here are scum.
If marshal was convert then that means Katze/Chloe Thunderdome (Ironic)
Katze =/= Shaman.
Katze could be Traitor or Seer
Chloe could be Traitor or Seer.
This would be -1 Scum
2/10 Scum Left

Finding Scum part 2

Rituale Voters Numbers
Katze Marshal, Katze, Braixen,Chloe,Arete,Sulit 6/11
Alice Wazza 1/11
Chloe Drybones 1/11

3 votes are Unkown which are
Alice, Icibalus, An_Gorta,

Here is D2 Rituale Wagon.


People that Voted Kyo and Katze (2)

Katze and Arete.


People that Voted Kyodaz and didnā€™t discuss their vote D3 (1)

Icibalus


People that Voted Kyodaz and Vanity Wagoned D3 (1)

Wazza


People who didnā€™t discuss their vote d2 and vanity Wagoned D3 (1)

Drybones


People that Voted Italy and voted Katze D3 (2)

Sulit
Braixen


People that Havenā€™t Discussed their Vote (1)

An_Gorta


People who voted none d2 and didnā€™t discuss d3 (1)

Alice


People who didnā€™t discuss their vote and voted Katze d3 (1)

Chloe


Within this group there is a tone of split up.
From these votes I would be suspisous of people that didnā€™t discuss their vote and/or voted Kyo/Katze

That would leave us with:
PoE of
Katze, Chloe, An_Gorta, and Arete

I would argue Vanity wagoning is also as bad, but this is the immediate PoE.

From this, I have already discussed Katze and Chloe so I will remove them.
Leaving us with
An_Gorta and Arete.

So? Kinda iffy on this but it would leave us with

An_Gorta and/or Arete are Scum

Though I am still susp of Vanity Wagons.

If 1 of them is scum. This would leave us with 1/10 confirmed scum left
(Ill talk about Convert last)

This one is more hypothetically speaking.

If we want to discuss my reads I would say that this slot could be
Sulit, Drybones, Wazza.

it is weird how these people that I have had a PoE on most of the game have not fit into any of these logical deductions.

Finding Scum Part 3

Letā€™s talk Night Actions:

These 3 that have not fit into the PoEs yet that are in my personal PoE.

N1:
Sulit: Visit Vulgard [Conjurer]
Wazza: Visit Apprentice [Oracle]
Drybones: Nothing [Blood Mage]

N2:
Sulit: Visit Arete {occupied} [Conjurer]
Wazza: Visit Vulgard [Oracle]
Drybones: Nothing? {occupied} [Blood Mage]

Looking at all of these actions none of them are confirmed.

I am Personally going to remove Wazza from this list, and I believe that he might actually be real judging by his previous actions. This leaves us with

Sulit and Drybones.

If I was to personally say who I think is scum here, it would be Sulit.
Though you can make a case for either or

Convert Discussion

All of this will largely by tinfoil and it can not be known for certain if Heretics got a convert because they may have accidently hit Traitor.

I feel like most of convert discussion relies around Class claims, people I believe most likely were converted:

Arete, Chloe, Alice.

BM, BM, Martyr

Most logically speaking heretics would convert Martyr as that would guarantee night kills.
6v4, If we get correct Lynch 6v3
2 Night Kills
4 v 3 + Something to stop ritual
Heretic Win

Another Possibility is Blood Mage convert. This would allow them to cleanse, so letā€™s say new scenario
6v4, we correct lynch 6v3
1 Night Kill, 1 is Blocked.
5v3
Sacrifice and Cleanse
4v3
Lynch correct
3v2
Night Kill
2v2
Heretic Win.

So without a doubt convert its within this pool.

Will post further analysis later.

Side Note 1

Vulgard checked Marshal, An, and Chloe
He probably received Heretic is feedback

Side Note 2

This actually makes a bad case for Sulit as if he knew marshal was gonna soul exchange then it would make sense why he voted

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I donā€™t think Braixen makes what he just did if he got converted

I think the scum is exactly this:
Gorta, Alice (Kyo) and one of Katze or Chloe (Marshal)

Lost Wolf - Arete (Obviously)

I would agree with some that, for my re-eval makes me think of different people as scum.

I do still believe Sulit is scum but not as much as I originally did. More so 60% certain he is scum and 100% he is not groupscum.

TvW or WvW would be Arete and An_Gorta
WvT would be Chloe and Katze

Alice is a likely convert.

sulit is a she

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