Why do you think Blue is town?
It stands for Oh my god, U suck.
it basically means when someone votes or scumreads someone because that player voted them
This shading was just wolfy as fuck, tbh.
Was just speaking my mind, thats what it seemed like to me
Alright, here are those Isoās you asked for.
Datbird Iso
So Datbird is always a hard person for me to read, I spent my first several games consistently reading him wrong (obviously in SFoL 51 it was kind of disingenuous but Iām pretty sure Iād have been scumreading him even as town, and until we got the HoB class list from Wazzaās ability and Datās claim I thought there was a pretty good chance Dat would turn out to be the NK). When I was reading NFoL 4 I got a correct read on him by taking the read I had on him that I got from trying to read him normally and then flipping it.
This and the several subsequent posts are all meme posts, Datbird memeposts more as town than as scum but I do think thereās a bit lower density of meme posts than usual.
This set of replies is an interesting one given Aliceās theory, insert the comment everyone ever makes about how they know the theory is incorrect but if you start from the theory being true then heās lying in this post, which obviously he could do if he were mafia, though his response here doesnāt sound forced to me. Someone outside me/Dat/Derps/Alice might want to take a look at it to try to figure out the tone here.
This defensiveness is kind of weird, not going to lie, but Iāve seen it before and donāt know how alignment indicative it is.
So basically he scumreads Marshal and townreads Solic and Sulit
I feel like this was a little fast to read Solic town, parts of that scuffle were my biggest hesitation about reading Solic as town
Quoting posts-within-posts is kind of broken so I just grabbed the end of this one, this is basically an analysis of Marshal, it seems like a basically reasonable analysis but I donāt know.
I donāt like this post, it feels like heās trying to encourage people detonating early when itās not really time for that.
General pushing, could be fakesolving.
This is the end of Datās semi-Iso of me, it honestly seems like a decent analysis? I feel like I canāt really object to people scumreading me early on, Iād hardly posted (even if the problem was that I was sleeping, lol).
thatās my question I suddenly feel a bit uneasy about how Datās copying almost my exact question, particularly with Aliceās theory on us Iām starting to wonder if Dat is trying to pocket me.
I realize itās me youāre talking about but this is a total misinterpretation of what I was saying, obviously you have no reason to trust me on that but in my opinion itās pretty clear that the thing Iām saying is not āI will blow up Derps if one person says soā itās āIām willing to blow up Derps but I need more reason than just my own gut feelings.ā
Sulit Iso
Alright, this is the first piece of analysis we see from Sulit. Itās kind of weak analysis as analysis goes.
Possible derpclear? Iām inclined to say not, mostly because Mafia can also derp, but it bears mentioning.
This makes me think Sulit might be town, Iād expect scum!Sulit to put more effort into defending themself here rather than specifically saying they didnāt care that someone voted them.
I like this Blue analysis, this feels decently thought out and high-effort (since it involved a lot of comparison with NFoL 3), obviously effort is not totally alignment indicative but I do think itās a good sign.
This is kind of a contradiction, which honestly makes me more inclined to think Sulit is town because if they were mafia theyād just know whether or not they would choose a town detonator.
I donāt think Sulit would call out a 180 like this if they were scum, and itās pretty well-explained in my opinion.
This question is really weird, which is a bit concerning, but I think mostly itās okay.
I appreciate Sulit prompting Wazza for content here, the choice of an Iso target makes sense since Wazza holds Marshalās detonator.
This is a really weird post, a townie wouldnāt want to cause chaos unless itās chaos that helps finds wolves.
Seems a little premature, this is a slightly wolfy post.
Iām honestly not really sure what to think of this post, I know this is wishy-washy but I could see it coming from either a mafia or a villager.
This set of reasons is generally pretty good, I like how Sulit is giving several reasons even if some of them (b and d) are kind of repeats of other posts, but this does seem fairly solvey.
This is Sulitās only vote all game, at that point in the thread it seems a bit weird but I mostly feel like Sulitās Iso is townie.
Given the current thread motion this is a pretty good question., makes sense as a place to put pressure from their point of view.
So overall Iād say from this that Datbird is a moderate scumlean and Sulit is a slight townlean, Iām vaguely bothered by how much of the Datbird case rests on something that I know isnāt true but I do agree that Datbird is being pretty scummy. (I realize he might detonate me in response to this but if he does that heās basically lockscum.)
/vote Datbird @astand
The one thing I canāt shake is the feeling that Iām being manipulated by powerwolf!Alice, maybe itās irrational to worry about this but I feel like if she is a wolf Iām playing right into her hands and letting her convince me to distrust my neighbors. Iām sort of tempted to detonate Derps and if he flips town to take another look at Alice.
pls no
Well, Iām going to dinner in a few minutes, so youāre definitely safe while Iām there. While I ponder the question, do you want to give me your top two townreads and your top two scumreads at the moment?
I donāt know iv been distracted most of the day
well figure it out
I mean my top town read is def Jake, blue is a light read, Marshal is a light scum read not sure about a second scum
Assuming for the moment that Marshal is scum, who do you think Marshal is likely to be scum with?
I just told you I donāt have another scum read
So you donāt have any other reads other than those 3
Not currently. I doubt ill ever have a good read on Solic and alice as well
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I want to trust Alice but at the same time Iām paranoid that Iām somehow playing right into the hands of a four-dimensional powerwolfing strategy and I really donāt want to let myself be manipulated that way but I donāt even know thatās whatās happening, and if that is whatās happening then we kind of need to stop it now before itās too late but if itās not whatās happening and we think it is then we lose out on her analyses, which, well, thereās a reason she always dies N1 in set-ups with nightkills.
Whatās your read on Sulit at the moment, since you currently hold their detonator?
Back from dinner, folks.
Personally, I would want a town Detonator, so that I would be able to threaten them with detonation if they didnāt do much
However, if the mafia choose the opposite of what they wanted, would it be suspicious or no?
Solic sees you as Scum because they donāt like you, from my PoV.
Solic has put you in a Dilemma:
If you read them as Town, They say itās pocketing.
If you read them as Scum, They push on you.
If you read them as Null, They push on you for being unable to read them with their amount of content.