[FM] Town of Salem 2 - Stalker, Executioner, and Shade win!

[an_gorta_pratai]

I pinged you earlier

[TheBlueElixir]

I take that back I can just go through your ISO

[TheBlueElixir]

I was probably asleep

[an_gorta_pratai]

@an_gorta_pratai

@TheBlueElixir I don’t have many reads right now, but I just got through reading 1.5k posts. I was a bit more suspicious of Marshal and now I think he is town, I know Seth is Seth, but he feels off this game, Wazza is still semi suspicious to me, but I think that slot can be self resolving. I will get more reads later and also I do plan on a Alice post

@an_gorta_pratai

So, Alice claimed vet, but then claim TI. Alice’s reasoning for doing so makes sense from a towny PoV, but I could also see something like that coming from a scum Alice. The thing that makes me think Alice!v is that her reaction to Marshal seems genuine. Can anyone confirm that that kind of reaction is or isn’t within Alice’s scum range? I will read up on more people later, but for now I hope that satisfies your hunger for reads.

@an_gorta_pratai

I know Seth is Seth, but like I said he feels off. In a way his citizen claim seems fake, especially after me and everyone else said NOT TO claim. That could probably just be Seth being Seth, but his claim feels fake to me.

@an_gorta_pratai

Seth is usually town and almost never starting scum, but in this game he feels off. I can’t explain it, but he just feels off.

@an_gorta_pratai

I really don’t know how to read Katze. Katze could be town, but at the same time I am suspicious of Katze. For me what makes Katze suspicious in my eyes is that Katze usually memes, but sometimes they are the thing they meme about and that makes me want to watch the slot closer.

here

[Alice]

@Wazza

By the way, I take back my Vig claim.

I have no clue what the fuck I was doing last night.

=_=

Again, you’re not endgaming here.

[Alice]

@Twil1ight

Magnus was absent most of the time and first they did after long time was hard-defending Alice for not really good reason but what happen next was much more interesting, Alice did a complete 180 on Magnus read after whiteknighting her earlier which for me look weird. Personally i think Alice is either Invest or Coven as i don’t see 3p!Alice pulling that stunt.

As I will explain again, Magnus can easily be read by their reactions to how they are pushed similar to Squid. I voted him to see how he reacted to being pushed and since his reaction was basically not caring about it then I think that he’s probs V from it.

[TheBlueElixir]

@an_gorta_pratai

@TheBlueElixir I don’t have many reads right now, but I just got through reading 1.5k posts. I was a bit more suspicious of Marshal and now I think he is town, I know Seth is Seth, but he feels off this game, Wazza is still semi suspicious to me, but I think that slot can be self resolving. I will get more reads later and also I do plan on a Alice post

thank you

I had the same thoughts about seth but apparently that’s townie to do whatever. Marshal is likely town after the dome and Wazza is probably not going to be self resolving unless he shoots soon(which i wouldn’t suggest but he’s going to do anyway)

@an_gorta_pratai

So, Alice claimed vet, but then claim TI. Alice’s reasoning for doing so makes sense from a towny PoV, but I could also see something like that coming from a scum Alice. The thing that makes me think Alice!v is that her reaction to Marshal seems genuine. Can anyone confirm that that kind of reaction is or isn’t within Alice’s scum range? I will read up on more people later, but for now I hope that satisfies your hunger for reads.

This is in her scumrange, but also inside her townrange so this isn’t something that can be determined by meta alone(well i don’t think so anyway)

@an_gorta_pratai

I know Seth is Seth, but like I said he feels off. In a way his citizen claim seems fake, especially after me and everyone else said NOT TO claim. That could probably just be Seth being Seth, but his claim feels fake to me.

@an_gorta_pratai

Seth is usually town and almost never starting scum, but in this game he feels off. I can’t explain it, but he just feels off.

I’d say that same thing but last game he prince hunted as prince. I do agree with the read though, its odd.

@an_gorta_pratai

I really don’t know how to read Katze. Katze could be town, but at the same time I am suspicious of Katze. For me what makes Katze suspicious in my eyes is that Katze usually memes, but sometimes they are the thing they meme about and that makes me want to watch the slot closer.

they both meme and do light solving, while deliberately not taking thread control. for now, that’s enough to townlean them.

I know I didn’t add a lot of thoughts to this but I have to go and Im just glad to have your reads.

but can you organize your PoE(who you would want to see lynched today)

[TheBlueElixir]

@ Alice

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/fm-town-of-salem-2-day-1-19-19/81585/2782?u=theblueelixir

[Alice]

@Wazza

Tbh, my shot target currently is in Cloned, N.1 and PKR.

Do not shot either N or PKR. I want N to actually start posting as using a guilt vig as a slank vig is dumb as hell.

PKR was also quite villagery, so I veto this.

@Wazza

This…actually does look horrible. Alice did the same thing when I was her scumpartner in RM4.

…I never SR’d Magnus. As I said before, I pushed him to gauge his reaction.

@Wazza

Further issues with this. We can’t protect Alice and Richard at the same time.

Italy should just WIFOM between us, tbfh.

[an_gorta_pratai]

Wazza is kind of all over the place, but I would have to read more on these less memorable people

[Alice]

@TheBlueElixir

I thought on it but TwiL1ght was also being threadspewed

Not to the same level as you were being. From the tip of my memory neither cloned nor I, nor a 3rd person that I forgot was TRing Twi while we both TR’d you.

@TheBlueElixir

and does being threadspewed mean that much if there a d1 lynch? like coven going to make sure their team is being townleaned early to aboid the d1 lynch

Yes, this happens as wolves don’t give flimsy TRs to their own mates not to arise too much suspicion, so it’s done more for their own survival then the survival of the group as a whole.

[TheBlueElixir]

@Chloe

nor a 3rd person that I forgot was TRing Twi

I was scumleaning Twi early yesterday but I pulled a 180 with a wallpost

[Alice]

@TheBlueElixir

anyway, the past 2 days ive asked for townreads/leans

today is lynch day

so I want everybody’s PoEs/who their okay with lynching today

Cloned is an obvious one, I also want to lynch EVO who for some reason is basically being ignored by everyone.

Wazza… I dislike him, but I want more time with him.

[Twil1ight]

Just for argument sake, you don’t think there is any chance of you being pocketed by Magnus?

[Alice]

@EVO

Wazza - Null/Towny-ish: Never good at reading Wazza

N.1 - PoE: Low-Poster

Alice - Townlean - Although I usually hesitate on AtE’s, her anger seemed consistant with her real anger from other games, and genuine. Her reads are a little hard for me to get sometimes this game, would like updates on why so many townreads.

ModeShifter - Townread: Seth doing what Seth do.
Italy - Null/Townlean: Low-Poster but claimed a hard to fake role, so a little credit due, but if this slot stays slanky this is PoE by EoD of D2.

oB_Light - townlean: Very well thought out read list, and consistantly tries to engage in discussion in a productive way.

Twil1ight - null: Townread her in beginning, but has consistantly failed to live up to the read. Starting to enter null territory.
an_gorta_pratai - [re-evaluating]

Marshal - Townread: Chatty+Thunderdome CC’d Alice as Vet.etc. etc. and before that, tried to get town being productive when slow and thread consistantly died. Claimed unique role that has had no further CCs, I am comfortable with this slot.

CRichard564 - Mayor: Need I say more?

katze - Nullish/Scumlean: idk her meta perfectly, and this read is weak, but if she isn’t a TI or TP, then likely a neut or scum trying to be passed off as neut.
This read is subjected to future change.
clonedcheese - Scumread: Just general scumminess and anti-town behavior. Alice scumreads this slot too. If this is groupscum they are very likely to be bussed so keep that in mind.

TheBlueElixir - Null: Pure at a glance, but seems to fake some of his responses, and generally gives answers that sounds like is just what he thinks the thread want to hear.
EVO - chill guy, cute too.

SogMan - Nullish/Scumlean: Seems to engage in pointless interactions and want sto look active, but this slot could also just be socially inaware at times.
This read is subjected to future change.

Fossil - [re-evaluating]

PokemonKidRyan - [re-evaluating]

Universal - townlean: he’s so adorable

Magnus - townlean: seems confidant in their position even when pushed, possible power role.

Like, just for an example I’m having the same issues regarding his readlist as cloned as it’s full of nulls. Most of the solid reads are basically just the D1 claims, and I really dislike how he went from “Alice is a townlean and Cloned is a scumlean”, but then suddenly goes into me potentially bussing cloned and in the same vein he hasn’t really pushed cloned or anything.

[Alice]

I’ll re-eval later once I get more data, tbh.

Magnus only has like 60ish posts and much of it is just fluff. I’m better at reading thought process than tone and since Magnus isn’t giving me any material to work with then I don’t have much solid work with him.

[Twil1ight]

Alright then,
/unvote
/vote clonecheese

I don’t know how much time until EoD left so i will just join the train.

[Wazza]

That’s the main reason, and also his reaction to my scumread rubbed me the wrong way

[Alice]

To elaborate.

@EVO

Wazza - Null/Towny-ish: Never good at reading Wazza

First null. Doesn’t bother reading Wazza.

@EVO

Alice - Townlean - Although I usually hesitate on AtE’s, her anger seemed consistant with her real anger from other games, and genuine. Her reads are a little hard for me to get sometimes this game, would like updates on why so many townreads.

I basically claimed, so…

@EVO

ModeShifter - Townread: Seth doing what Seth do.

It’s Seth. He’s a gimme.

@EVO

Italy - Null/Townlean: Low-Poster but claimed a hard to fake role, so a little credit due, but if this slot stays slanky this is PoE by EoD of D2.

Another claim.

@EVO

oB_Light - townlean: Very well thought out read list, and consistantly tries to engage in discussion in a productive way.

Not as bad, I give him credit.

@EVO

Twil1ight - null: Townread her in beginning, but has consistantly failed to live up to the read. Starting to enter null territory.

Second null.

@EVO

an_gorta_pratai - [re-evaluating]

Self-explanatory.

@EVO

Marshal - Townread: Chatty+Thunderdome CC’d Alice as Vet.etc. etc. and before that, tried to get town being productive when slow and thread consistantly died. Claimed unique role that has had no further CCs, I am comfortable with this slot.

CRichard564 - Mayor: Need I say more?

Two more PRs.

@EVO

katze - Nullish/Scumlean: idk her meta perfectly, and this read is weak, but if she isn’t a TI or TP, then likely a neut or scum trying to be passed off as neut.

Yet another null, also has the same issue as Wazza by claiming the lack of read is related to lack of familiarity with her playstyle.

@EVO

clonedcheese - Scumread: Just general scumminess and anti-town behavior. Alice scumreads this slot too. If this is groupscum they are very likely to be bussed so keep that in mind.

Pointed it out before why I dislike him pre-flipping Cloned despite him previously mentioning townleaning me.

@EVO

TheBlueElixir - Null: Pure at a glance, but seems to fake some of his responses, and generally gives answers that sounds like is just what he thinks the thread want to hear.

Another null, doesn’t really gives examples and I’d imagine someone faking response would be relatively wolfy, not null.

@EVO

SogMan - Nullish/Scumlean: Seems to engage in pointless interactions and want sto look active, but this slot could also just be socially inaware at times.

Like… yet another null on an active player. Bolded part is also hedge, which is a wolf tell.

@EVO

Fossil - [re-evaluating]

PokemonKidRyan - [re-evaluating]

Fossil’s understandable, but not PKR.

@EVO

Universal - townlean: he’s so adorable

Magnus - townlean: seems confidant in their position even when pushed, possible power role.

??? on the Uni read.
Magnus… eh, kind of like Ob_Light, which isn’t bad, but not that villagery.

[Wazza]

He didn’t comment on my claim either