[FM] Town of Salem 2 - Stalker, Executioner, and Shade win!

[TheBlueElixir]

Mannugs said that they’d vote marshal>alice

they then voted alice yes

[Geyde]

Problem for me was that I didn’t see what logic town would have to provoke that change in vote

[Geyde]

I’d rather not talk about magnus right now until they come online
Partially because I really want them to explain where the hell their head was at on d2, partially for other reasons

[TheBlueElixir]

thoughts at end

@Possessed

This seems to be the latest list from Alice. Ill go over it.

@Possessed

So odds of Wazza being redirected onto a death immune are possible, but that would mean that the death immune is in towncore.

This is obviously just a working theory. The odds of it just being EVO is death immune are far more likely than that or of Wazza lying about the attack, especially with a poisoned claim.

@Possessed

Yeah I think another TK would have came through by now. Its pretty safe to assume Wazza is the TK.

@Possessed

I actually agree with you for once here in that Geyde making that statement seems a bit like hed have spoken out of his ass. My issue is that if there is no.significant push on you, why does he target you as a LHF lynch? Derps pushes usually backfire

@Possessed

Can you direct me to Sog’s accusers? Time to do a little ScienceTM

@Possessed

I haven’t gone through.any of Sog’s posts, but I’ve played a few games with him and I can probably guess that his way of writing made people question his legitimacy. I made that mistake in the last SFoL.

What I want to find is the good pushes on him.vs the bad pushes. You’ll find wolves in agenda pushes 9 times out of 10.

@Possessed

Obviously not including Marshal because he’s both dead and confirmed scum.

@Possessed

See that’s a piece of info I’m considering doing extensive research on. There were 3 non-voters:

Sogman (My slot so obvious I know this is town)
Italy (Dead, Citizen)
ClonedCheese (???)

I don’t think all groupscum piling onto one wagon is a good bet, but you’ve also got a ClonedCheese wagon of

@Jane

| clonedcheese | CRichard564, Zone_Q11, Fossil, Wazza, Alice

Now Alice flipped town. Wazza is claiming TK with no CC, and I think CRich? Is claiming a PR. That’s THREE town on that wagon. VCA would suggest a re-analyzation of Cloned to see if Alice was the counter wagon to save a Coven.

@Possessed

The timing is the indicator.

Did he do it as she was dying, or did he advocate for a CFD way sooner?

@Possessed

Yeah I haven’t gone backwards yet, just hit looking at the quicklink in OP. I’m not gonna make any promises because I’m a lazy shit but I want to do a deeper VCA from yesterday.

@Possessed

For the record, the exchanges you posted? Had I been a third party player and not know the alignment of this slot, id scumread the shade-posts as an attempt to discredit your pushes as well.

Not sure if I can get into detail of SogMan since I’m his replacement, is that he has this weird town meta that is much akin to what I’ve witnessed in CRich. It gives off major newbwolf vibes, as he doesn’t realize a lot of the actions and posts he takes are scum AI for normal players. Its something I’ve misconstrued as recently as the last SFoL, where I gossipped him expecting him to be checked as he seemed pretty scummy.

You’re suspicion is valid, and I like the general path you took on it Seth.

@Possessed

His reasoning on Sog? Nah.

I’ve scumread Sog before, and Sog’s posts are very reminiscent of when I did…SFoL.

@Possessed

And normally I’d push you on those exactly because I’ve seen you mess up mechanics as scum.

However, I’m considering the possibility that you’re pulling a Marshal-esque FPS to get EVO lynched but fucked it up badly.

@Possessed

But like.

3 of the 4 NKs are immune, and he outs the ONE that isn’t. You don’t find that odd?

@Possessed

No way am I outting my real kill target if I’m Wazza, not that it matters for him anyway.

@Possessed

Id personally add Geyde to the PoE as he’s an absolute wildcard and you don’t want to mistake his scum game for town.

@Possessed

Bottom line: We can’t trust Wazza. At all.

I think he’s lying about his Jugg claim and I think he’s lying about his DI target. Lies lies lies.

@Possessed

Im starting to think EVOs lack of care or defense is scum AI.

@Possessed

No I just realised what Medusa is, its a Coven class. So Derps just baited him to commit die?

So I pretty much grabbed a lot of Possessed’s posts at kind of random and ended up with this

Some solving. not a lot. Majorly mech solving though, reads few and far between.

I don’t like this, feels like he’s putting effort into anything but mech. There was a lot of fluff in the ISO too, most of which I didn’t quote, but mech+fluff+a small amount of kinda obvious reads+a little self defense=a bad look

thats kinda why I especially want more/reads from him today, I don’t think my want has been fulfulled

[TheBlueElixir]

Possessed is in my lynch pool today and an NK/coven candidate

thats the conclusion

[Zone_Q11]

@Geyde

oh and plus zone and pkr

@TheBlueElixir

oh yeah

I’d add Zone

not PKR/Gorta yet though

…nn? What is this about?

[TheBlueElixir]

I explain those just after

[CRichard564]

Hey I’m back.

[Zone_Q11]

Were you talking about the Citizens?

[TheBlueElixir]

@Zone_Q11

@TheBlueElixir

oh yeah

I’d add Zone

not PKR/Gorta yet though

…nn? What is this about?

my explainations about who is in who is out

[Zone_Q11]

In and out of what?

[TheBlueElixir]

I was making a towncore

me and geyde tried to figure who the consensus towncore likely was

[ChopChop]

Why is PKR not in your town Core?

[TheBlueElixir]

Why would they be yet? I don’t feel like they’ve delievered and Alice made it clear that we weren’t solving on claims

call me stubborn

[ChopChop]

Are you have mental brain issues? Or are you Scum?

[ChopChop]

Do you have*

[Aelin]

Wazza was shot by a vigi, Blue.

[ChopChop]

Careful what you say.
I don’t entirely know your Playstyle and you might be Coven and I might be wrong to Town Core you.

[ChopChop]

@Aelin

Wazza was shot by a vigi, Blue.

Shhhhh.

[ChopChop]

I could have made Blue slip Coven if they are Cove