[FoL] EFoL 3 - Cult Wins

i mean same

Who would you have killed if not Prince? I bet me

You because the optimal thing to do was kill a scum and by EoD2 I had you as basically lockscum

that honestly would have been decent, though, I’d activated Haemophilia pretty shortly after figuring out for certain that Kyo was the Prince, so Dat would’ve been prevented and consumed by the flames, and thanks to Dat’s prevention Soul would have lived. Wazza would have died but I think that would’ve been the only additional BD death? pretty sure Priestess’s guard wouldn’t have counted as a visit.

In any case, that would have meant that even if scum had decided to go with the ‘openwolf and ask for neut help’ strategy, which I’d need to double-check whether they’d have had the numbers for, they’d have probably focused on Kyo first.

So yeah, it would’ve been Priestess, HTM, Astand, and Sog for cult votes (5 votes total), Kyo, H_Hja, Frost, and Soul for BD votes (4 votes total) and Kai and I for neut swing votes (2 votes total, and Kai’s mark would have been dead). Majority would’ve been 6, with Cult only having 5 votes on their own; I was more or less a BD vote but they might have seen Wazza as a bribeable neut vote, and Kai was potentially actually a bribeable neut vote. Assuming Kyo didn’t then out that he was out of executions, they would probably have seen the definite Prince as a greater threat than the probable NK (Soul still would have been cleared, via resurrecting Sulit) but what exactly happened would depend on what in particular they expected the neut swing votes to do, and whether said swing votes proceeded to vote up the Prince.

…I am literally never going to get townread without a mechanical check on me again, am I?

I was actually planning to out a fake jail on you if I was alive and Possessed was BD.
It was of high priority to me that I did not inform the Cult that I was out of executes.
It may have been an anti-bd thought though I believe at the time it would have benefited us greatly.

As a way to… prevent conversion. Or using Mercy. That would have been my reasoning.

to me at least

I honestly think that would’ve been pro-BD if you thought you could pull it off. Would’ve depended on whether people actually bought that you jailed me twice and didn’t execute, and you’d’ve had to have outed your fake jail before I outed my fake bounty, but I’d have gone along with it, most likely – it was only going to benefit me if people thought I was cleared of being the NK due to the number of deaths in the night.

also i need to like make a more indepth funeral post to like address everyone but thats neither here nor there

Wait Game is over

Damn.

ye lol

Serious thoughts on this particular EFoL

Day 1 Lynches

I honestly don’t particularly mind the D1 lynch? It’s obviously different from FoL but it’s not like it’s turning it into an entirely different game or anything. If it sticks around someone is going to need to put serious thought into balancing the set-up, 3 starting Cultseen + possible EK is just kind of broken, but 2 starting Cultseen + probable GK might be underpowered if one of them ends up getting caught D1.

Inquisitor

Probably fine but it wasn’t forcerolled so I can’t actually say whether it would work well as implemented or not. In my opinion, the Inq spawnrate should probably be higher than that of most neuts if you want it to actually affect the game – even before Kai wound up outed as the “second” neut, lots of people were soft or hard claiming. I think probably there are going to need to be a couple games where it actually shows up before people start treating it as a meaningful thing that exists.

Logs

Obviously FoL isn’t ToL, but if it’s going to be ToL-based at all it kind of needs logs to stay a thing. I know one of the concerns mentioned was the thing where some people aren’t particularly active and then just leave giant readlists in their logs; one potential compromise solution would be to have a word or a character limit in logs for them.

I don’t think the lack of logs affected the game as much as it could have (though it did mean that people trusted Alice’s flip), but I do think it could have affected it a lot more if the game had gone past D3. Of all the changes in this EFoL, this is the one that feels most wrong.

tl;dr: Logs good, overpowered cultseen bad, Inq probably fine, D1 lynch fine iff the second thing gets resolved

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Love this just cant like any more cuz dumb rules

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Am I the only one who read this post and thought “get this mate into the balance team”

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I’d be down for that 1000 characters is what u can send to prince I think so make logs the same

ily dat plz marry me

I read it and said good job, but I want to balance more

See, if I were on the balance team I’d feel bad about the fact that my entire opinion on logs can be summarized as ‘but I like them :frowning:.’

Maybe :wink: