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18 players is the solution to this IMO
Game is too high powered for a 16er
And the average player makes both good and bad shots as vig, so why would they want to improve if they know faliure is harshly punished if they fail to improve?
You roll knight
Suddenly itās optimal play to CS n2/n3
If weāre talking about vig guilt being good because it discourages yolo shots, it also discourages people from getting better at the game because it breeds a culture of failure being a one-way ticket to deadsville, and thus makes people not want to bother improving.
Which is a pity, because becoming at least decent at mafia is one of the most fun things iāve done in the past few years, and I think games are always more fun when you have more engaged, fun, skilled players.
Okayā¦ yolo killing BD is apparently considered as āgood way to get better in the gameāā¦ argh.
Unfortunately, it is. People are a lot better at recognising why the flipped villager they killed is a villager, which helps them understand what to look for.
Knight CS reworked into
CS (inf use) Kill your target, you will have to additionally provide a 500 word essay on why you believe they are evil. The host will decide if your reasoning is valid. If you CS a BD or your reasoning is considered invalid you will commit suicide and the players will freely able to call you a moron.
There, balanced around good players.
Iād make Archer plainly redirect immune then too instead of conditional on multishot. Both Alcholic and Wench have limited abilities to deal with them still and Invoker can occupy. Just Warlock would be shafted here, but I think thatās kind of fine, considering they are already +1 for evil faction.
It also differentiates them with other BD killers.
Still have another idea, but Iāll wait once Iām home in a day or so to share.
Let people make mistakes, and let them learn from them.
Let not encourage people to make mistakes ^^
Buttttt
Host bias.
Iām not encouraging people to make mistakes by removing guilt.
Suicide guilt is basically: āThink about your actions, donāt kill blindly, only kill when you are really really sureā
You know what else is? the threat of killing a fucking villager
You know what happens in real, when you donāt have guilt? You just policy kill people
and then being alive to have all your fellow villagers yell at you for making a bad shot
āencouraging toxicityā
Honestly, without guilt, Knight would just CS everytime over defend.
And itād be broken as hell.
I donāt love guilt as a mechanic, but itās in ToL and Iām honestly 50/50 on it.
literally not the point
iām trying to illustrate why your argument dosenāt work because the argument extends to defending any practise if it discourages making bad shots