FoL Feedback Thread

the only thing i like more about ToL is the fact that scorned is pretty EZ

and marshal’s scorned strat™ is mostly flawless. and neuts out as an added bonus

I mean I was an Obs claim

and I’d found the Assassin, so I was “”“confirmed”""

but I was openwolving, so I had to be evil

ergo Nightwatch

yes I was starting MM

real takes only

Actual ToL-specific take:

People in ToL will usually tell you that you should bus your convert because bussing your convert leaves the starting Assassin around to be promoted

this is dumb

(a) bussing your convert is more likely to be picked up on as a bus, but (b) more importantly if you’re going for the bus play you don’t need your starting Assassin around to be promoted, and your convert is most likely more confirmed than your Assassin is

Also thoughts on guilt
takes

i don’t like bussing in ToL because the bought towncred is never really enough. you can just be called a convert and people don’t have enough mechanical cohesiveness to figure out who and who isn’t the convert in 90 seconds


guilt too swingy. Just vanillarize knight who misses CS

The actual best bus I’ve seen is an Assassin who claimed Butler and (after there were a bunch of missing kills) pushed their Mastermind for being “occupied” with so many missing kills

It never remotely occurred to me that they could have been bussing them

guilt is how you turn a perfectly fine game into a game with 5 dead BD n3 because of a wrong read

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‘even if I were convert we need MM’
‘btw up 7 they claim Chrono and Chrono is a common MM claim’

I think Knight is too strong without something of the form

Archer guilt is basically fine as is

should knight be changed in other ways to compensate

Knight being elite bodyguard seems too strong

Here’s an idea
Knight guard doesn’t kill attacker

I like knight as it is with vanillarization(or loss of abilities) as a punishment.

Because it encourages you to take shots without fearing your life but also punishes you for bad shots

Knight is already an Elite Bodyguard though

ehh.

then it’s just worse phys

I’m thinking in context of vig that doesn’t feel too bad about misvig

But it’s also a vig
Chrono time warp is worse than standard heal, but it makes up for it with distort

I’m pretty sure the last time a Knight successfully killed an attacker was in FoL 22

but phys is also an enhanced protective.

(gives perma bleed imm., can heal bleed and poision.)