FoL Feedback Thread

eh i don’t know what you are on about

Bd lynched napoleon and won easily after that and somewhat because of that

end of discussion.

But as katze mentioned, yes.

Better yet, duplicate the black fog to someone else, so the holder won’t show the additional message, it doesn’t mean the holder has switched places, merely framed the non-holder and revealing the nature upon death.

The Lich (Unofficial Class) :shield: :fire:

Neutral Killer
Phylactery (Passive) - During Day One, specify two players to unknowingly be your Phylactery Holders excluding King. If you fail to do so before the end of the day, they are randomized. You will know their starting classes. Investigations against the Phylactery Holders will also yield the additional message “You feel a chill surrounding the target player. They are a Phylactery Holder for The Lich.” If your Phylactery Holders die, this fact that they are one will be included with their class information.
Undeath (Passive) - As long as the Phylactery Holders are both alive, at the start of every night you will automatically revive yourself if you are dead, regardless of how they died. You are night, bleed occupy and redirection immune while at least one of them lives. You will be informed if bled attempts are made. If both of the Phylactery Holders are dead you will die the following night.
Spectral Mist (Day) - A target Phylactery Holder is healed tonight. - 3 uses
Black Fog (Day) - Attempts to investigate either of the Phylactery Holders will fail tonight. - 3 uses
Finger of Decay (Night) - Kill a player. If you were revived at the start of the night, then this attack bypasses night immunity and healing. - Infinite uses :crown:
Death’s Curtains (Night) - Kill one of your Phylactery holders and two other targets. (bypasses night immunity, healing and does not count as a visit for specifically the two other targets), - Infinite uses, but only usable while you have two Phylactery Holders alive :crown:
Your objective is to defeat the Blue Dragon, Unseen, Cult and any neutrals that dare stand in your way.

https://imgur.com/a/Jc29TuS

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Mystic’s wording on Link Minds will be updated to say that it can be done alongside warp reality
Inq will no longer be able to stab while jailed. We’re working on some possible permanent changes to Inq but haven’t fully decided yet

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As it turns out

Classes that can’t normally die unless a specific condition is met are not good

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It has nothing to do with your play, or really with anything that happened

But there shouldn’t be a scum class that can’t meaningfully be executed until unrelated arbitrary conditions are met

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It was but it was changed

I think we should probably change it back

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That’s how it was then someone changed it for some god knows reason

Then it is just advanced Scorned

knight needs to be nerfed.
its easily one of the strongest classes
solving 2 slots in a single night should never be considered balanced.
defend is a better elite bodyguard as you dont die the first time it pops.
Cold steel solves 2 slots regardless of where it lands.
(i count flipping people as solving their slots)

What i would make Knight into

The Knight

Blue Dragon Killing

Defend (Night) - Target a player, if they are attacked. You will take their place and the person who was the attacker will begin bleeding - Infinite uses :crown:

Cold Steel (Night) - Attack a player. - 3 uses

I can see removing Armored passive, but Defend not killing the attacker would make it very underpowered.

Remember that a 1 for 1 trade isn’t worth as much on FoL as it is in a standard mafia setup due to conversion mechanics. And while this isn’t as impactful as it is in ToL due to shorter games (which will likely change with 18p setups to be less extreme) it should still be taken into account.

Also resolving 2 slots by flipping 2 BD players isn’t something I would call OP.

when your trying to clear out a PoE imo it is

The problem is that whether the suicide mechanic is super good or super bad depends almost entirely on where the Knight is in the PoE

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Given how quickly FoL games usually end this seems super strong

In all of the past 3 classic FoLs, as well as NFoL 4 and EFoL 3, this would’ve worked out to “literally every night”

Didn’t we have to nerf Unseen

And then…Endgame happened.

if they begin bleeding at the end of the night.

Knight becomes confirmable

knight is also dead

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Oh but then there’s a conf scum