FoL Feedback Thread

Arete · January 25, 2020, 4:18am

looks at Sellsword
looks at Warlock

Marshal · January 25, 2020, 4:18am

mindmeld #2

orangeandblack5 · January 25, 2020, 4:18am

I mean it depends but considering “BD-sided neut” is a god-awful archetype I’d say maybe 40% is a better cap than an actual target

JakeTheWolfie · January 25, 2020, 4:19am

FoL is also bad because of something which won in in.
not naming any names here

Ami · January 25, 2020, 4:19am

hey orange remember that one quote from sfol 11
:^)

Marshal · January 25, 2020, 4:19am

nah making neuts having no chance of winning 60% of the time sucks balls

never have a hard winrate cap on a solo who can with with other factions

soft cap maybe

orangeandblack5 · January 25, 2020, 4:19am

Okay I discount those because “scum-sided neut” is generally a good archetype, but requiring survival can make them significantly less effective at their purpose

JakeTheWolfie · January 25, 2020, 4:19am

When I say neutral, I am not talking about any neutrals which are in direct conflict with any major factions, or other neutrals.

Ami · January 25, 2020, 4:19am

ghost of fols past here lmao

Arete · January 25, 2020, 4:20am

new SS/Warlock wincon

“See the Blue Dragon defeated at any cost and have a majority of non-BD players at the end of the game vote privately to say that you meaningfully advanced your win condition”

orangeandblack5 · January 25, 2020, 4:20am

How would you even have a “hard winrate cap”

JakeTheWolfie · January 25, 2020, 4:20am

That one spiteful EK be like

Marshal · January 25, 2020, 4:20am

“roll a number 4 or less on discobot once in the game” as a wincon

Arete · January 25, 2020, 4:20am

Neither of them has to survive

also scum-sided survivors suck

especially when you figure out 3/4 wolves, try as hard as possible to signal to them, and still get strongman killed despite your “”“townreads”"" on all of them

orangeandblack5 · January 25, 2020, 4:21am

Like you do realize a 40% average winrate =/= a 60% chance to lose a specific game, right?

It’s just that you get much higher than that and you’re getting into coin toss or even free win territory

Marshal · January 25, 2020, 4:22am

i assumed this implied that you meant neuts shouldn’t win more than 40% of the time

i guess you did mean on average

a-paw-logies

orangeandblack5 · January 25, 2020, 4:22am

I’m aware

That’s why I said I’m okay with them winning for doing nothing in the scum-sided neutral case

Because otherwise the survival aspect is even worse

JakeTheWolfie · January 25, 2020, 4:22am

Please explain how a 40% winrate isn’t a 6-% lossrate.

orangeandblack5 · January 25, 2020, 4:23am

A 40% average winrate is not a 60% chance to lose a given game

A good player should be able to pull a much higher winrate while a worse player should have a lower one

An average of around 40% then feels fair

Marshal · January 25, 2020, 4:23am

well we still won the game so you can suck it

you were too much of a threat to leave in game if you were town(and i thought you were)

last time i left a wrong arete alive it didn’t fuckin work out well for me when they turn around and yeet me

and my “kill-arete-asap” strat has a 100% winrate