FoL Feedback Thread

Arete · April 1, 2020, 9:56am

But Geyde

FM doesn’t have a stand

Emilia · April 1, 2020, 9:56am

DatBird · April 1, 2020, 9:56am

it does its called mechanics and they arent toxic

Geyde · April 1, 2020, 9:57am

game is toxic then
don’t join

KyoDaz · April 1, 2020, 9:59am

APRIL FOOLS? RIGHT???

DatBird · April 1, 2020, 10:00am

No pay attention this is official announce thread

Geyde · April 1, 2020, 10:00am

I can confirm for certain that America is a very important place and that you should vote for me as a result

Icibalus · April 1, 2020, 10:01am

how toxic of you to presume that we can’t have a Serious™ discussion about balance on the First of April! typical toxic forumer!

DatBird · April 1, 2020, 10:01am

bet they dont even play tol

Geyde · April 1, 2020, 10:02am

raid shadow legends

Icibalus · April 1, 2020, 10:04am

right it’s sponsorship time i forgot

DatBird · April 1, 2020, 10:05am

@RaidShadowLegends

Geyde · April 1, 2020, 10:05am

WHY does that exist

DatBird · April 1, 2020, 10:05am

I think Eevee made it

KyoDaz · April 1, 2020, 10:05am

Geyde:

NK has been deleted.

The core of FoL always has and always should be the massive complexity of individual classes surrounded by a cast of neutrals
So we are doubling down on the BD vs. Cultseen conflict, and are going to be cranking up the neutrals to compensate in weirdness.

NK has long been a hold on the game by being such a factor of swing that we have had to constantly cater changes just to make sure that things ‘can’t immediately kill nk’
NK is a design limiter, and as such needs to be removed at some point

Additionally, it has been proven through extensive calculations that its swinginess is ultimately unhealthy for the game. If it goes out too early, game is massively bd sided. If it goes out too late, then the game is massively scumsided. This is ridiculous, and the fun that people might get from the idea of nk is ultimately quashed since it being able to win in the first place is the sign that something is entirely off in the game’s balance.

Doing this, we can move the game back to 16p (testing 18p first) since the burden of nk means that games won’t end in a matter of two days.
By removing crosskills, the game becomes easier to balance
These changes will not come into play until after the next FoL

I actually wouldn’t be disappointed if it’s removed, the points you layed out are effective.
If the removal of NK would prolong games to a moderate degree then I’d be for it.

Geyde · April 1, 2020, 10:07am

pretty much every reason I pull up is genuine
but me removing it probably isn’t happening for now

I think people care a little too much for it

Icibalus · April 1, 2020, 10:07am

yes prolonging games is part of why we’d institute this change, but it is against the spirit of ToL and ergo Toxic

DatBird · April 1, 2020, 10:08am

EFOOOOOOOOOOOOL it… we have them for a reasooooooon

Damn Ghosts

KyoDaz · April 1, 2020, 10:08am

I mean NK is a core function of the game like it’s historic value.
But it’s just being prolonged like the British monarchy just for historic value.
Before we remove it I want some more Neutral Evils.
I also want a sub-class of Neutral to be Neutral Evil where their win conditions has to require BD’s loss.

DatBird · April 1, 2020, 10:09am

But like Fool is NE but dont got that specifically