FoL Feedback Thread

Highkey thats a priest rework i could get behind

Give it a day ability that lets it see who X visited last night, as well know who your Convert visited and who your foresight target visited.

But the lack of feedback allow you not to claim Princess as MM but think of something creative.

claiming priest as alch?

Person to claim priest as mm gets my respect

I like foresight being a follow that also gives converted class type

The point is that ordering someone or knowing who they visit automatically makes you confirmed starting BD in an Unseen game, which would not happen in a Cult game.

Wait I just realized. Maid claim 2.0

Is it unique though?

Pretty sure it only give class type you convert into - however it gives you excuse just to visit if you get caught by Observer.

inhales

Well, the cult leader can train the starter cult member to giving them non-unique BD alts and it doesnā€™t matter if youā€™re seeker or Invoker, youā€™re not bound to train him just Maid cult alts if you are Seeker, just what you wish. Maybe not listening to the starting cult member since they backstab you and lose their cult alts they ask for.

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rerolls are fun amirite

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Why would you ever train someone into a maid

There is one way I think it may work: make him a Double-Class.

In short, Mastermind can be some poll of ā€œconvertibleā€ BD or change little bit to fit him have almost exact same abilities + his original ones. He will ALWAYS flip as this class but at same time they canā€™t be more Masterminds. He can make a double action when only it would be seen by Observer only action from his disguise.

In other words, similar to Traitor but at same time it can be quite hard to caught. :thinking:

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Give Knight alts as starting Ritualist? You can.

Donā€™t ask me that, I will be more upset about the player than my questionable decisions.

Fair

Isnā€™t every Maid evil?

Almost.

the ones that donā€™t use RB checks, yep

/s

For a MM, Iā€™d say this would work.

The Mastermind :crossed_swords: :shield:

Unseen Special
Canā€™t Touch This (Passive) - Immune to death at night, occupation and target changing. You will know if someone tries to occupy you or change your target.
Lurking Presence (Passive) - If you are killed within the first 3 nights your next in line will take your place as Mastermind, and you do not appear as Unseen to all investigations for those nights.
Eyes of the Black Rose (Night) - Determine a playerā€™s converted class type, or if they cannot be converted. If they can be converted, you will see who visits them and who they visit the next night. - 4 uses
Influence of the Black Rose (Night) - Your votes will count as double for today and you can select another player to remove their votes for the next day. Cannot be used past the fourth day. - Infinite uses
Convert (Night) - Change target player into the Unseen version of their class. If you have failed to convert a target twice already and your next conversion would fail it will instead target a random convertible player. - Infinite uses, 1 night cooldown
Dirty Work (Day) If there are no more Unseen members left, you can become the Assassin at the beginning of the night and youā€™ll use Assassinate on your target. - 1 use

Your objective is to defeat the Blue Dragon and any neutrals that seek to do you harm.

tl;dr - The MM can now reliably fake Observer as long as they donā€™t ding a neut or the Sheriff or Prince while this also cast doubts on Nobles in Unseen games without influencing LyLo too much as your Noble abilities will be gone by d5.

I think this could work. Still, my rework would be less complicated IMO.

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I canā€™t allow this, due to Firekitten around the globe, as well ā€œwhy didnā€™t you order and use double vote in the same game?ā€

But less effective as well due Mastermind would STILL have limited claimspace. But thatā€™s me. /shrug

wait thatā€™s extremely OP they can do both