FoL Feedback Thread

If either rework option is the highest, ideally we’d want to keep the main flavor intact. So the ritual of turning into the revenant, and then doing things while “dead.”
And the wincon I have in mind isn’t as direct as “See the blue dragon lose”.

I’ll write up my Neutral Evil rework idea soon

Very well, how different would that be compared to Neutral Social classes?

Completely

reworking rev again

hissss

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Has it already been reworked once?

Yeah Fade and I reworked it a while back

It used to have infinite binds and no barrier

Since it’s rolled twice now there’ve been a bunch of complaints about how there’s no way to mechanically nor socially detect it. If all scum are dead it’s pretty much flipping coins as nobody usually claims d1 and they HAVE to use their ritual d1.

If people are opposed to a full rework, i have a couple of ideas for some decent nerfs.

Nerf Idea 1: Make the bound player permanently immune to death, however any occupations or direct redirects (like debauch) will also work on the revenant.

Nerf Idea 2: Passively change the bound player’s class type to Killer, and/or give them a miller-esque effect that makes them suspicious to investigation.

I’m gonna post my idea for a rework anyway though since i’d like to hear people’s thoughts on it

The Spiritualist (Unofficial Class)

Neutral Offensive
Blood Rites (Passive) - You are immune to occupation and target changing.
Mark of Shadow (Night) - Occupy a player. Even if they are immune to occupation, you will be told their class type.
My life for the darkness! (Night) - You cannot use this ability until you have used Mark of Shadow on a special/investigative class, a support/social class and a killer/offensive class. You will commit suicide, turning into The Revenant. You may use this ability while jailed and it cannot be stopped by any means.
Your goal is to become The Revenant.

The Revenant (Unofficial Class)

Neutral Offensive
Phantasm (Passive) - For all intents and purposes, you are dead. You cannot speak in-thread, you cannot be targeted by any day or night actions, vote or be voted for as you are dead.
Visions of Catastrophe (Day) - Send evil spirits to a player’s room tonight. Any feedback they receive from their abilities or occupations will be replaced with “The shadows torment you. You could not sleep.”
Haunt (Night) - Occupy a player.
Warp the Shadows (Night) - Target two players. Anyone who targets the first player will instead target the second. (but not vice versa.)
You have already won.

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Lmao no

That’s just a new class altogether

That’s the point
That’s what a rework is most of the time. Keeps the theme and general idea the same but changes most of (if not all) of the mechanics.

You’ve removed the theme and general idea

The point of Rev is that it latches on to people, that’s why I made it

There NEEDS to be a way to mechanically or socially identify the bound target then.

I’ll whip something up

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Maybe in :b: estigatives see the bound boi as Rev

yeh, that was the second idea for a nerf i had
something along those lines

Since the power isn’t the revenant’s main problem, it’s the uninteractivity, you could even add some small buff to compensate.