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#7667

I guess it’s a meh point either way but it just seems useless (maybe it’s because others focus more on confirming themselves)

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#7668

It’s a minor change, not really meant to affect all that much.

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#7669

Observer

Blue Dragon Investigative

Little Bird (Day) - Send a bird to watch if a player leaves their room that night. You will be told if they did or not the next morning. - Infinite uses
Watch Carefully (Day) - Empower your night ability tonight. You will additionally know who the target visited if using follow, or who visited them if using stalk. - 2 uses, only usable d3 onwards.

Follow (Night) - Watch someone to see who visits them. - Infinite uses
Stalk (Night) - Track a player to determine who they visit. - Infinite uses

Your objective is to defeat the Unseen or Cult, and any neutrals that seek to do you harm.

Mastermind :shield: :crossed_swords:

Unseen Special

Can’t Touch This (Passive) - Immune to death at night, occupation and target changing. You will know if someone tries to occupy you or change your target.
Lurking Presence (Passive) - If you are killed within the first 3 nights your next in line will take your place as Mastermind, additionally you do not appear as Unseen to all investigations for those nights.

Dirty Work (Day) If there are no more Unseen members left, you can become The Assassin at the beginning of the night. - 1 use.

Convert (Night) - Change target player into the Unseen version of their class. If you have failed to convert a target twice already and your next conversion would fail it will instead target a random convertible player. - Infinite uses, 1 night cooldown
Foresight (Night) - Check if player can be converted. You will learn their converted class type if possible. Additionally, you will know who they visit and who visits them.

Your objective is to defeat the Blue Dragon and any neutrals that seek to do you harm.

Just posted the classcards if these changes are added. In The Shadows also doesn’t exist unless you revert Assassin to ToL Assassin and then remove the Lurking Presence for In The Shadows.

#7670

Observer’s not hard to claim. Look at Firekatto in infeccson

#7671

And that was still OP observer I think? :stuck_out_tongue:

The issue is that it might have been nerfed too hard and is no longer in line with other invests power. We are working on a fix for it.

#7672

OBJECTION! I don’t know what I’m objecting but nuke made me think of

What tf happens when scum invests are mind warped

What happens if a master mind is mind warped

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#7673

What happens if a mindwarped player is mindwarped?

#7674

We don’t have mindwarp iirc

#7675

Theoretically they would both apply simultaneously.
So greencheck would still be redcheck

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#7676

We have the effect it refers to even if we don’t have the ability

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#7677

yeah but if we added nuke fool we would

#7678

Fair

#7679

Illusionist construct reality is a mindwarp + frame

#7680

like

what do we do lmao

#7681

Mindwarp reverses the result received.

If target was checked as scum, they would be checked as town
If target was checked as town, they would be checked as scum

Frames automatically make the first scenario the only one.
Mindwarps aren’t conflicting

#7682

Wait so does a mindwarp resolve before or after a frame?

#7683

After.

Frame makes the player appear as scum to checks.
When investigating it basically makes them the Assassin for all intents and purposes.

Mindwarp changes the result depending on what the result would have been normally.

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#7684

Ok so what is everyone else’s thoughts on my Fool rework proposal?

#7685

This one

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#7686

sounds good to me, that way they aren’t thhe worlds easiest win. Would it be unique so only one fool can spawn if two non nk neuts spawn?

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