I’d say in a conversion game, you have the opportunity to be a wolf whilst also experiencing the village mindset that ever slightly dips when you get converted, the best converts are players who will continue to play as if they weren’t converted. For instance if I thought Solic was a wolf and he converts me and I suddenly TR him. I’m going to be next if I’m lynched.
I’ve used this sort of mindset when I get converted in TOL of not changing my stance if I get converted and very often villa will just auto-clear you of being converted
btw according to states the winrate is about 61% BD vs 39% scum win. Not perfect, but not bad either.
Except for the NK. Who apparently has literally never won.
Nk struggles to win because you need to have an extremely strong start and keep the ball rolling
Never.
We don’t do d1 lynches and Grand Trial is already well balanced alongside being interesting
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Can we just like, delete Fool or at least revert it back to it’s old wincon.
Fool is highly useless being like this in my personal opinion.
Your goal was to make Fool have skill, this Fool literally has no skill and only luck. All it has is guesses on who is scum and who isn’t or scum-reading to try and figure it out, sure, scum-reading is a skill but can be heavily flawed.
Old:
The Reaper
Neutral Killer
Consume Soul (Passive) - If you die at night with at least one soul, you will consume it and come back to life. You start with two souls. (Does NOT work if executed by The Prince) You will gain one soul on a successful reap.
Icy Touch (Day) - Choose to do a number of the following actions to target player. You will consume a soul for each action chosen. Prevent target player from using day abilities for the rest of the day. Occupy target player this night. Cancel target player’s vote for the rest of the day. - Infinite uses
Reap (Night) - Reap the soul of a player, killing them bypassing healing and occupying them. - Infinite uses
Gather Darkness (Night) - Use Reap on target player. In addition, choose to do a number of the following modifications. You will consume a soul for each modification chosen. Bypass death immunity or they will have information in their logbook of your choosing (or no logbook if nothing is specified), and you will receive their real logbook when they die. - Infinite uses
Your objective is to defeat the Blue Dragon, Unseen, Cult and any neutrals that dare stand in your way.
New:
The Reaper
Neutral Killer
Consume Soul (Passive) - If you die at night with at least one soul, you will consume it and come back to life. (Does not work if executed by The Prince) You start with two souls. You will gain one soul on a successful reap. You are aware of the number of souls you hold.
Icy Touch (Day) - Choose to do a number of the following actions to target player. You will consume a soul for each action chosen. Prevent target player from using day abilities for the rest of the day. Occupy target player this night. Cancel target player’s vote for the rest of the day. - Infinite uses
Reap (Night) - Reap the soul of a player, killing them bypassing healing and occupying them. - Infinite uses
Gather Darkness (Night) - Use Reap on target player. In addition, choose to do a number of the following modifications. You will consume a soul for each modification chosen. Bypass death immunity or you are occupy/redirection immune for this night. - Infinite uses
Your objective is to defeat the Blue Dragon, Unseen, Cult and any neutrals that dare stand in your way.
Old:
The Physician
Blue Dragon Support
Remedy Studies (Passive) - You are immune to bleeding.
Innoculate (Day) - Prevent a player from being poisoned or bled for the rest of the game. - 1 use
Exhume (Day) - At the end of the night, learn what faction killed a player. - 2 uses
Heal (Night) - Heal a player, preventing them from dying tonight, and curing any poison and bleeding they were suffering from. - Infinite uses
Self-Care (Night) - Heal yourself tonight. - 2 uses
Your objective is to defeat the Unseen or Cult, and any neutrals that seek to do you harm.
Converts into The Herbalist or The Ritualist
Cult points: 2 - Each ability costs: 1
Cult Alts
(Exhume): Exsanguination (day): At the end of the night, learn what classes killed a player, or if they commited suicide. - 2 uses
(Heal): Mithras’s Mercy (Night) - The Cult Leader’s Blood of Mithras will not kill the Cult member that is targeted. - 1 use
New:
The Physician
Blue Dragon Support
Remedy Studies (Passive) - You are immune to bleeding.
Innoculate (Day) - Prevent a player from being poisoned or bled for the rest of the game. - 1 use
Exhume (Day) - At the end of the night, learn what faction killed a player. - 2 uses
Heal (Night) - Heal a player, preventing them from dying tonight, and curing any poison and bleeding they were suffering from. - Infinite uses
Self-Care (Night) - Heal yourself tonight. - 2 uses
Your objective is to defeat the Unseen or Cult, and any neutrals that seek to do you harm.
Converts into The Herbalist or The Ritualist
Cult points: 2 - Each ability costs: 1
Cult Alts
(Remedy Studies): Bloodborne (Passive) - You are immune to poison and bleeding. You will retain this effect through class change.
(Exhume): Exsanguination (Day) - At the end of the night, learn what classes killed a player, or if they commited suicide. - 2 uses
(Heal): Mithras’s Mercy (Night) - Heal the Cult Leader and the Cult player they may target with Blood of Mithras this night, preventing them from dying tonight, and curing any bleeding they were suffering from. - 2 uses
Old:
The Maid
Blue Dragon Investigative
Change Sheets (Day) - Target two corpses. At the end of the night, learn if they were killed by the same player. - 2 uses
Matchmake (Night) - Test if target is compatible with the player you last checked. - Infinite Uses
Your objective is to defeat the Unseen or Cult, and any neutrals that seek to do you harm.
Compatibility:
- Members of opposing Factions are not compatible
- Members of Neutral Factions are compatible with everyone that they can win with
- Royals are not compatible with each other
- The King, Fool and Scorned are not compatible with anyone
- The Mercenary is compatible with her targets no matter the faction
Converts into The Handmaiden or The Seeker
Cult points: 2 - Each ability costs: 1
Cult Alt:
(Change Sheets): Mithras’ Wisdom (day): At the end of the night, learn if a flip has been tampered with and by which class. - 2 uses
The Handmaiden
Unseen Investigative
Search Room (Day) - At the end of the night, learn if a flip has been tampered with and by which class. - 2 uses.
Matchmake (Night) - Check 2 players to see if they’re the same class type (cannot target fellow Unseen or the King). - Infinite uses
Prying Servants (Night) - Target a dead player. You will learn all the players that visited them on the night they died. Does not count as visiting. - 2 uses
Your objective is to defeat the Blue Dragon and any neutrals that seek to do you harm.
New:
The Maid
Blue Dragon Investigative
Change Sheets (Day) - Target two corpses. At the end of the night, learn if they were killed by the same player. - 2 uses
Rumor (Day) - Target player will be “last checked” in regards to Matchmake. Cannot be used day 1. - 2 Uses.
Matchmake (Night) - Test if target is compatible with the player you last checked. - Infinite Uses
Your objective is to defeat the Unseen or Cult, and any neutrals that seek to do you harm.
Compatibility:
- Members of opposing Factions are not compatible
- Royals are not compatible with each other
- Members of Neutral Factions are compatible with everyone that they can win with
- The Neutral Killer is compatible with Blue Dragon and incompatible with Cult/Unseen
- The Fool is not compatible with anyone
- The Scorned is incompatible with whoever they mark this night
Converts into The Handmaiden or The Seeker
Cult points: 2 - Each ability costs: 1
Cult Alt:
(Change Sheets): Mithras’ Wisdom (Day) - At the end of the night, learn if a flip has been tampered with and by which class. - 2 uses
(Rumor): Corax whispers (Day) - Frame target player this night. - 2 Uses.
(Matchmake): Cult Compatibility (Night) - Test if target has the same faction as the player you last checked. If not, learn their exact classes.
The Handmaiden
Unseen Investigative
Search Room (Day) - At the end of the night, learn if a flip has been tampered with and by which class. - 2 uses.
Matchmake (Night) - Check 2 players to see if they’re the same class type. Learn their exact class if it matches. - Infinite uses
Prying Servants (Night) - Target a dead player. You will learn all the players that visited them on the night they died. Does not count as visiting. - 2 uses
Your objective is to defeat the Blue Dragon and any neutrals that seek to do you harm.
Summary:
Reaper can see the number of his souls now.
Reaper gains the potential to gain occupy/redirection immunity over manipulating logbooks which is more Possessor’s niche. This also makes NK’s almost universally occupy/redirection immune, which is the design we’d aim for. Reaper doesn’t have it by default, but makes it up for it by being flexible.
The Cult Alt Physician was one of the weakest. Taking bleed immunity is now stronger and will be kept through becoming Cult Leader/Devout King and will also stop poison. The main ability is now also able to heal, so converting bleeding players with Physicians alive is actually a viable strategy. A converted Physician should also still have healing in some capacity.
Maid can no longer find NK’s. To compensate they gain Rumor, which allows them more flexibility, and also gives them ways to bounce back from being blocked/jailed night 1. In addition the cult alt was very weak and has been given a frame and a stronger matchmake to put them in line with other cult alt investigatives. Cult also had no frames yet, which is bad for claimspace. Handmaiden gained a buff in Matchmake.
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I’d love some feedback on it, since the private team was in hibernation for these changes.