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#16882

No

#16883

Fool can theoretically side BD, and this class can theoretically side evils, yes
Itā€™ll be probably rare, but its possible

#16884

thank god I donā€™t like strigoi

#16885

I can tell you that I will always scumside as that first neutral
Just prevent two lynches on scum. Delay the game until scum KP kills BD before they can actually lynch themselves.

#16886

Yikes, this makes it even more powerful
Delay 2 lynches and then sacrifice yourself instead which wouldnā€™t even count towards this

Because youā€™re not BD

#16887

I donā€™t think it plays out exactly like how its written on paper
It can prevent two lynches, but it requires prediction / making that lynch happen

#16888

Question, how does the neutral work if cult/unseen failed a convert and one of them died N1 and then the other cult/unseen got lynched the next day?

#16889

And if Missionary is able to do that, they basically win
that would be similar to scorned in that potential play path

#16890

Scum wins a mechanic thunderdome, letā€™s say Sheriff v Unseen
There is literally no way to kill them in 3 days unless BD has KP

#16891

Itā€™s even more broken if the mechanical thunderdome was resolved by BD KP because that wouldnā€™t count towards wincon limit

#16892

That would require missionary to predict thunderdome was going to happen beforehand

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I canā€™t believe I missed this
I would assume they die since they arenā€™t privy to basic scum promotion rules because of being neut

#16893

I donā€™t know, it seems like there are many plausible scenarios in which this single neutral breaks the game.
I want to see it happen. Iā€™m in favor of adding it for now.

#16894

And being final scum with no kill power leads to potential stalemate scenarios
Itā€™s also possible that Dies Irae could be enabled if Crusader is only scum alive (minus di bypass)

#16895

still like Chancellor the best

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#16896

What did you hope to achieve with the second neutral should actually be my next question. Because if it was to balance the game, I donā€™t think thatā€™s the best neutral to do it.

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#16897

Wait

We added a weeb neut???

#16898

I agree. Chancellor feels powerful but balanced. If this neutral happens to be an exceptionally good addition I want a rework of every single neutral.
Theyā€™re almost just ā€˜additionsā€™ in the game rather than something you should be wary of.

#16899

It was not to balance the game
I slammed insurgent for that

I didnā€™t even personally like it that much
I canā€™t give a solid answer for why it exists beyond ā€˜other fol team people liked itā€™

#16900

Better yet why donā€™t we just remove every single neutral until we find suitable replacements

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#16901

Scorned good tho

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